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jlfernan



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Elevator pivot tabs Reply with quote

I have a problem where one tab on the end of the elevators is about a 64ths off which causes the bolt to go in crooked is causing some binding and the left center tab, one hole is about a 32nd off and the bolt will not go through. I sent John at Kitfox an email and am awaiting a response. Any suggestions from you guys.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Elevator pivot tabs Reply with quote

Jorge,
I had the same problem w/my KF-IV. Your best advice will come from John...but I was told to start at the inboard and work out inserting the pins. I needed a co-pilot to help me nurse it into position, but it worked out fine.
Dan B
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I have a problem where one tab on the end of the elevators is about a 64ths off which causes the bolt to go in crooked is causing some binding and the left center tab, one hole is about a 32nd off and the bolt will not go through. I sent John at Kitfox an email and am awaiting a response. Any suggestions from you guys.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Elevator pivot tabs Reply with quote

My problem is not the order I put the bolts in. You can see in the photo below how the left tab is shorter than the right.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Elevator pivot tabs Reply with quote

At 03:32 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote:
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I have a problem where one tab on the end of the elevators is about
a 64ths off which causes the bolt to go in crooked is causing some
binding and the left center tab, one hole is about a 32nd off and
the bolt will not go through. I sent John at Kitfox an email and am
awaiting a response. Any suggestions from you guys.

Me, I would elongate the holes using a Dremel with a burr.
If you haven't covered, I'd consider replacing the thin plates with
tubes, similar to that on the horizontal. Then you can use
polyethylene bushings on all surfaces.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: Elevator pivot tabs Reply with quote

Simple fix, use a drill and reamer and go up to the next size larger bolt
and rebore the bushing to work with the larger bolt. If you can't do that
then you'll have to weld a new tab on.

That's the only things you can really do to fix it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Elevator pivot tabs Reply with quote

If you do go to plastic bushings use Delrin, or better yet PEEK, Nylon
will wear out very fast if used for elevator bushings. PEEK is very
expensive, Delrin is probably your best choice.

You can get the bushings from McMaster Carr http://www.mcmaster.com
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Elevator pivot tabs Reply with quote

Hey guys.. lets not confuse the Model IV elevators to the 5 and newer...

Jorge,
The simple fix is to open the hole slightly... Can most likely be
done with a reamer. When the elevator tab is bolted on it will be up
against the inner bushing in the stabilizer and be just fine.
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John & Debra McBean
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Elevator pivot tabs Reply with quote

John -

That would work, but it would not be acceptable from the accepted practices
point of view, since then you would have a hole larger in diameter than
the bolt.

Obviously it won't be a serious problem, but I think going to a 1/4 dia. bolt
would be a better solution. That is if it is like a series 5 which uses bushings.

Regards,
Jeff


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