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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:58 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Just a short note to let you all know that I flew my Lightning today.



Flies great!



On 8/22/08, Jim Langley <pequeajim(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Tex:



 You probably will need a shorter turnbuckle on one side, (I think it is the

 right), to get things properly lines up, (pedals to rudder).



 They may already shipped a long and short with your kit.  If you get to the

 point with your rudder cables, and your are out of alignment, then this is

 what you will need to do.



 From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com

 [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of

 Kayberg(at)aol.com

 Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:12 AM

 To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: rudder cable attachments



 In a message dated 8/21/2008 8:37:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

 wb2ssj(at)frontiernet.net writes:



 Has anyone tried a different means of attaching the rudder cables to the

 rudder? tex



 This is kind of a scary question, Tex.



 I think most of us just hooked em up.  Most of the fuss was in getting the

 rudder on straight.  The cables seemed kind of simple.



 Doug



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Rick

Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 113
Location: Colonial Beach, Virginia

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Way to go Jim!

 So C what do you think??

 How do you like her?

 Rick 

 N727RB

  

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		   Date: Sat C 23 Aug 2008 14:57:38 -0400

 From: pequeajim(at)gmail.com

 To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: I flew C I flew!!!

 

 --> Lightning-List message posted by: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim(at)gmail.com>

 

 Just a short note to let you all know that I flew my Lightning today.

 

 Flies great!

 

 On 8/22/08 C Jim Langley <pequeajim(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 > Tex:

 >

 >

 >

 > You probably will need a shorter turnbuckle on one side C (I think it is the

 > right) C to get things properly lines up C (pedals to rudder).

 >

 >

 >

 > They may already shipped a long and short with your kit. If you get to the

 > point with your rudder cables C and your are out of alignment C then this is

 > what you will need to do.

 >

 >

 >

 > From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com

 > [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of

 > Kayberg(at)aol.com

 > Sent: Friday C August 22 C 2008 7:12 AM

 > To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com

 > Subject: Re: rudder cable attachments

 >

 >

 >

 > In a message dated 8/21/2008 8:37:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time C

 > wb2ssj(at)frontiernet.net writes:

 >

 > Has anyone tried a different means of attaching the rudder cables to the

 > rudder? tex

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 > This is kind of a scary question C Tex.

 >

 >

 >

 > I think most of us just hooked em up. Most of the fuss was in getting the

 > rudder on straight. The cables seemed kind of simple.

 >

 >

 >

 > Doug

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 > _____

 >

 > It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal

 > <http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047> here.

 >

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 >

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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Boy, she flies like a little fighter, on rails!  Funny, when flying

the Shelbyville demo a few weeks ago, it took me a little while to get

used to the sensivity.  I guess I was prepared for that with mine, and

I really didn't think about it.



That's a good plug for low time pilots taking transition training.



Worth the time doing it!



On 8/23/08, Rick Bowen <rollnloop(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 Way to go Jim!

 So, what do you think??

 How do you like her?

 Rick

 N727RB



 Do Not Archive> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:57:38 -0400> From:

 pequeajim(at)gmail.com> To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com> Subject: Re:

 I flew, I flew!!!> > 

 "Jim Langley" <pequeajim(at)gmail.com>> > Just a short note to let you all know

 that I flew my Lightning today.> > Flies great!> > On 8/22/08, Jim Langley

 <pequeajim(at)gmail.com> wrote:> > Tex:> >> >> >> > You probably will need a

 shorter turnbuckle on one side, (I think it is the> > right), to get things

 properly lines up, (pedals to rudder).> >> >> >> > They may already shipped

 a long and short with your kit. If you get to the> > point with your rudder

 cables, and your are out of alignment, then this is> > what you will need to

 do.> >> >> >> > From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com> >

 [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of> >

 Kayberg(at)aol.com> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:12 AM> > To:

 lightning-list(at)matronics.com> > Subject: Re: rudder cable

 attachments> >> >> >> > In a message dated 8/21/2008 8:37:27 P.M. Eastern

 Daylight Time,> > wb2ssj(at)frontiernet.net writes:> >> > Has anyone tried a

 different means of attaching the rudder cables to the> > rudder? tex> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > This is kind of a scary question, Tex.> >> >> >> > I

 think most of us just hooked em up. Most of the fuss was in getting the> >

 rudder on straight. The cables seemed kind of simple.> >> >> >> > Doug> >>

>> >> >> >> > _____> >> > It's only a deal if it's where you want to go.

 Find your travel deal> >

 <http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047>

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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Jim,



    Congratulations!   What a thrill!



Linda

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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Congrats, Jim: Nick says he has flown N13LN about 2 hours. I wish I could  do it, but I just can not find the time to get back up to Shelbyville.

 Lynn



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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Thanks Linda:

  

 I always appreciate your encouragement...



 

 On 8/23/08, IFLYSMODEL(at)aol.com (IFLYSMODEL(at)aol.com) <IFLYSMODEL(at)aol.com (IFLYSMODEL(at)aol.com)> wrote: [quote]  Congrats, Jim: Nick says he has flown N13LN about 2 hours. I wish I could do it, but I just can not find the time to get back up to Shelbyville.

 Lynn



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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:15 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Congratulations, Jim,  I know it was a long time coming for you, but  the rewards are tremendous.  Enjoy the experience, take good notes for your  test data, and keep up your good work of "sharing" with other Lightning  enthusiast.  See you and your "jet" in Tennessee on 27 September.

 Blue Skies,

 Buz



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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Congratulations Jim.  I can well imagine your excitement....Mine is only a few months away!!!

 "Bear"

 

 

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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:32 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Thanks fellows...  I am hoping that I can get the hours flown off by the time of the fly-in.  I will be maintaining a specific page on my web site documenting my flight testing.

  

 Jim!

 N730AL

www.jimslightning.com

 

 

 On 8/24/08, n5pb(at)aol.com (n5pb(at)aol.com) <n5pb(at)aol.com (n5pb(at)aol.com)> wrote:  [quote]Congratulations Jim.  I can well imagine your excitement....Mine is only a few months away!!!

"Bear"

 



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Clive J

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Posts: 340
Location: UK

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

40 hours must be a real pain, I remember when I flew my Ultralight and

40 hours was a good year!



Has the EAA never tried to get it reduced? In the UK it's 15 landings

and take offs, at least 5 hours total with one flight of a least 2 hours

(or a flight of max duration with a reserve if it's less). 40 hours is a

lot of flying just for the sake of it. Even if you do some creative

accounting......



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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

In a message dated 8/24/2008 12:52:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  clive.james(at)uk.bp.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  40 hours must be a real    pain, 

Has the EAA never tried to get it reduced?  40 hours is    a

lot of flying just for the sake of it. Even if you do some    creative

accounting......

	


 

 Two points:

  

 First, if you are using a certified prop and a certified engine it is just  25 hours.  The current 40 hours (or 25) is down from the original 50  hours.  Can't remember when that changed, but that is what I had to fly off  on my homebuilt Pitts even with a certified prop and engine back in  1977 - yes, I am an old fart.

  

 Second, if you actually fly all the test profiles that should be flown to  determine all needed data points for your airplane, it will take quite  a few flights and hours to complete the testing.  It took me close to 30  hours of actual test flying time on the Esqual to complete everything that  should be done. The other 10 hours (to get to 40 total) were well spent  learning all the neat things that my Grand Rapids EFIS was capable of doing  - such as highway in the sky steering to a simulated instrument approach to any  runway that is in the GPS data.  Really neat.   

  

  Too many builders just fly off the 40 hours and never really know  their specific airplanes.  They can get away with this because most have  built airplanes that have been around for a long time and they just use the data  that others have come up with, but they really don't know the actual data points  for their airplanes.  What is the real Vx, Vy, best glide (flaps and no  flaps) for your airplane.  What is your best fuel burn at different  altitudes for different airspeeds or rpm?.  What EGTs should you be seeing  at various power settings?  What is the best prop for your airplane?   I could go on and on with examples, but hope everyone gets the point.  It  really does take about 40 hours to complete all the needed test profiles for  your airplane.  Without knowing these things how do you come up with a  useful aircraft flight manual (pilot's operating handbook) for your airplane -  as required by regulations?  

  

 The FAA regulations on this (FAR 21 and 91) as well as FAA Advisory  Circular 90-89A are pretty specific as to what you should be doing.  They  call the 40 hours (or 25) phase one testing.  The EAA also has some good  information on flight testing that is available through the EAA Flight Advisor  Program.  I encourage all of you to go to these sources and check with your  friendly EAA flight advisor before you start your flight testing.   Accidents on first flights have greatly decreased since the EAA Flight  Advisor program has been in effect.

  

 For my own use, I have divided the FAA 40 hours (phase  one testing) into a 5 phase program that I have used successfully on several  different aircraft.  The five phases that I have broken the 40 hours  down to are:

 -phase 1 - Initial flight plus two others

 -phase 2 - Build data on aircraft and engine performance

 -phase 3 - Determine all V speeds

 -phase 4 - Structural  and Stability tests

 -phase 5 - Max gross weight and CG test

 I have specific profile objectives for each phase and specific flight  profiles for the first flights and then later flight profiles are developed  based on data gathered to that point.  

  

 It really does take close to 40 hours if you do all that should be  done.  You really need a plan for each flight in order to be efficient with  the time that you have.  You also need a good way to record flight data  that you will use to develop such things as performance graphs.  I use a  digital recorder with a lapel mic that I put into one of my ear phone  cups.  With a voice operated intercom I just say the data that I want  recorded  and the mic picks up me talking and saves it for future  playback on the recorder.  Also, many of the new EFIS set ups have a way to  record flight data for later download which is also useful.  

  

 Bottom line, have a specific plan for each flight, follow that plan, record  your data after the flight, and then plan the next flight based on what you  learn on the previous flight and what you need to accomplish on the next  flight.  

 Blue Skies,

 Buz

     



 



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Clive J

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Posts: 340
Location: UK

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Ah, good ole Buz, straightening out the impetuous youth again...



I do see the logic put that way. I've done nearly 10 hours on my Esqual

and not got anywhere down my list of planned flights (well Buz's list

actually). A full power climb without overheating would be a good start.



When I said 'a pain' I was thinking of a sorted plane. My Jabiru was

built to the instructions apart from a few 'personal' touches (full

width panel). The test pilot flew twice for 20 mins once on his own and

then once with me to check out my landings. Then that was it. I didn't

do anything to that plane until the first oil change. It flew to the

book figures (~) and it still does a 1000 hrs later. Again though

thinking it through it's not a good comparison as the Jabiru is type

approved by the LAA and when you build it you don't change it so you

don't have anything to find out, except that it meets the book figures.



The 40 hr rule has to cover all types of experimental of course, some

unique and there must be occasions when it isn't any where near enough.



I did think a late Lightining with the same engine, cowl, ducts cooling

system etc as the latest demo model would come in the 'sorted' category

though.



I'm just reading the Starr guys book, You want to build and fly a what?,

the 25 hour thing was explained there.



Good feedback as usual mate, Regards Clive (youthful impatient 50 year

old). 



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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:19 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Jim,  

   

Congrats on your solo I am glad to hear your piloting your own jet…….. Jim, and all in the group take note of the flight testing suggestions, all to often builders fly around in circles for 40 hours and don’t do much, heck I just met a gentleman this weekend that had 60 hours on a bird (not going to mention the design but it wasn’t a lightning) and he had not even stalled the aircraft, important to know don’t ya think. Any ways when you get into a Cessna or piper they have come up with all the info, but now you have. Fuel burns at different power settings, approach speeds based on your aircrafts performance in stalls and such ( remember each system is different and you’re ASI might be different than your friends). Well you get my point, but if your are doing your job as new experimental pilot you should never be bored and it should take all 40 hours to get a good feel of your Jet and what it does.  

   

nick  

         

  

From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich(at)aol.com

 Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:49 PM

 To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: I flew, I flew!!!  

  

       

In a message dated 8/24/2008 12:52:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clive.james(at)uk.bp.com writes:  

   	  Quote: 	
		    

40 hours must be a real pain, 

 Has the EAA never tried to get it reduced?  40 hours is a

 lot of flying just for the sake of it. Even if you do some creative

 accounting......  	
  

    

Two points:  

    

   

    

First, if you are using a certified prop and a certified engine it is just 25 hours.  The current 40 hours (or 25) is down from the original 50 hours.  Can't remember when that changed, but that is what I had to fly off on my homebuilt Pitts even with a certified prop and engine back in 1977 - yes, I am an old fart.  

    

   

    

Second, if you actually fly all the test profiles that should be flown to determine all needed data points for your airplane, it will take quite a few flights and hours to complete the testing.  It took me close to 30 hours of actual test flying time on the Esqual to complete everything that should be done. The other 10 hours (to get to 40 total) were well spent learning all the neat things that my Grand Rapids EFIS was capable of doing - such as highway in the sky steering to a simulated instrument approach to any runway that is in the GPS data.  Really neat.     

    

   

    

 Too many builders just fly off the 40 hours and never really know their specific airplanes.  They can get away with this because most have built airplanes that have been around for a long time and they just use the data that others have come up with, but they really don't know the actual data points for their airplanes.  What is the real Vx, Vy, best glide (flaps and no flaps) for your airplane.  What is your best fuel burn at different altitudes for different airspeeds or rpm?.  What EGTs should you be seeing at various power settings?  What is the best prop for your airplane?  I could go on and on with examples, but hope everyone gets the point.  It really does take about 40 hours to complete all the needed test profiles for your airplane.  Without knowing these things how do you come up with a useful aircraft flight manual (pilot's operating handbook) for your airplane - as required by regulations?    

    

   

    

The FAA regulations on this (FAR 21 and 91) as well as FAA Advisory Circular 90-89A are pretty specific as to what you should be doing.  They call the 40 hours (or 25) phase one testing.  The EAA also has some good information on flight testing that is available through the EAA Flight Advisor Program.  I encourage all of you to go to these sources and check with your friendly EAA flight advisor before you start your flight testing.  Accidents on first flights have greatly decreased since the EAA Flight Advisor program has been in effect.  

    

   

    

For my own use, I have divided the FAA 40 hours (phase one testing) into a 5 phase program that I have used successfully on several different aircraft.  The five phases that I have broken the 40 hours down to are:  

    

-phase 1 - Initial flight plus two others  

    

-phase 2 - Build data on aircraft and engine performance  

    

-phase 3 - Determine all V speeds  

    

-phase 4 - Structural  and Stability tests  

    

-phase 5 - Max gross weight and CG test  

    

I have specific profile objectives for each phase and specific flight profiles for the first flights and then later flight profiles are developed based on data gathered to that point.    

    

   

    

It really does take close to 40 hours if you do all that should be done.  You really need a plan for each flight in order to be efficient with the time that you have.  You also need a good way to record flight data that you will use to develop such things as performance graphs.  I use a digital recorder with a lapel mic that I put into one of my ear phone cups.  With a voice operated intercom I just say the data that I want recorded  and the mic picks up me talking and saves it for future playback on the recorder.  Also, many of the new EFIS set ups have a way to record flight data for later download which is also useful.    

    

   

    

Bottom line, have a specific plan for each flight, follow that plan, record your data after the flight, and then plan the next flight based on what you learn on the previous flight and what you need to accomplish on the next flight.    

    

Blue Skies,  

    

Buz  

    

    

   

  



 

         

  

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Thanks nick:

  

 This is an exciting time for sure.  I agree with both you and Buz in that there is a lot of things to do and document to make sure that the airplanes that we build are safe.  I'm not sure where the percentages are with safety records, (experimental vs. GA), but if it is close or better, there is a good reason for it; and that is proper flight testing.

   

 I just called and spoke with Dana.  Is she getting a little bit of a southern accent?

  

 (LOL)



 

 On 8/25/08, flylightning <info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)> wrote: [quote]   

Jim, 

  

Congrats on your solo I am glad to hear your piloting your own jet…….. Jim, and all in the group take note of the flight testing suggestions, all to often builders fly around in circles for 40 hours and don't do much, heck I just met a gentleman this weekend that had 60 hours on a bird (not going to mention the design but it wasn't a lightning) and he had not even stalled the aircraft, important to know don't ya think. Any ways when you get into a Cessna or piper they have come up with all the info, but now you have. Fuel burns at different power settings, approach speeds based on your aircrafts performance in stalls and such ( remember each system is different and you're ASI might be different than your friends). Well you get my point, but if your are doing your job as new experimental pilot you should never be bored and it should take all 40 hours to get a good feel of your Jet and what it does.  

  

nick 

     

 

From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of N1BZRich(at)aol.com (N1BZRich(at)aol.com)

 Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:49 PM

To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com (lightning-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Re: Lightning-List: I flew, I flew!!!

 

    

In a message dated 8/24/2008 12:52:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clive.james(at)uk.bp.com (clive.james(at)uk.bp.com) writes: 

  	  Quote: 	
		    

40 hours must be a real pain, 

Has the EAA never tried to get it reduced?  40 hours is a

lot of flying just for the sake of it. Even if you do some creative

 accounting...... 	


  

Two points:

  

 

  

First, if you are using a certified prop and a certified engine it is just 25 hours.  The current 40 hours (or 25) is down from the original 50 hours.  Can't remember when that changed, but that is what I had to fly off on my homebuilt Pitts even with a certified prop and engine back in 1977 - yes, I am an old fart. 

  

 

  

Second, if you actually fly all the test profiles that should be flown to determine all needed data points for your airplane, it will take quite a few flights and hours to complete the testing.  It took me close to 30 hours of actual test flying time on the Esqual to complete everything that should be done. The other 10 hours (to get to 40 total) were well spent learning all the neat things that my Grand Rapids EFIS was capable of doing - such as highway in the sky steering to a simulated instrument approach to any runway that is in the GPS data.  Really neat.    

  

 

  

 Too many builders just fly off the 40 hours and never really know their specific airplanes.  They can get away with this because most have built airplanes that have been around for a long time and they just use the data that others have come up with, but they really don't know the actual data points for their airplanes.  What is the real Vx, Vy, best glide (flaps and no flaps) for your airplane.  What is your best fuel burn at different altitudes for different airspeeds or rpm?.  What EGTs should you be seeing at various power settings?  What is the best prop for your airplane?  I could go on and on with examples, but hope everyone gets the point.  It really does take about 40 hours to complete all the needed test profiles for your airplane.  Without knowing these things how do you come up with a useful aircraft flight manual (pilot's operating handbook) for your airplane - as required by regulations?   

  

 

  

The FAA regulations on this (FAR 21 and 91) as well as FAA Advisory Circular 90-89A are pretty specific as to what you should be doing.  They call the 40 hours (or 25) phase one testing.  The EAA also has some good information on flight testing that is available through the EAA Flight Advisor Program.  I encourage all of you to go to these sources and check with your friendly EAA flight advisor before you start your flight testing.  Accidents on first flights have greatly decreased since the EAA Flight Advisor program has been in effect. 

  

 

  

For my own use, I have divided the FAA 40 hours (phase one testing) into a 5 phase program that I have used successfully on several different aircraft.  The five phases that I have broken the 40 hours down to are: 

  

-phase 1 - Initial flight plus two others

  

-phase 2 - Build data on aircraft and engine performance

  

-phase 3 - Determine all V speeds

  

-phase 4 - Structural  and Stability tests

  

-phase 5 - Max gross weight and CG test

  

I have specific profile objectives for each phase and specific flight profiles for the first flights and then later flight profiles are developed based on data gathered to that point.   

  

 

  

It really does take close to 40 hours if you do all that should be done.  You really need a plan for each flight in order to be efficient with the time that you have.  You also need a good way to record flight data that you will use to develop such things as performance graphs.  I use a digital recorder with a lapel mic that I put into one of my ear phone cups.  With a voice operated intercom I just say the data that I want recorded  and the mic picks up me talking and saves it for future playback on the recorder.  Also, many of the new EFIS set ups have a way to record flight data for later download which is also useful.   

  

 

  

Bottom line, have a specific plan for each flight, follow that plan, record your data after the flight, and then plan the next flight based on what you learn on the previous flight and what you need to accomplish on the next flight.   

  

Blue Skies,

  

Buz

  

   

 

 

    

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Good morning everyone!

  

 I just read the responses from Buz and Nick concerning the first 40 hours  of flight in a newly built aircraft and I believe their opinions are extremely  valid. I say that because, after building two other airplanes, (not  Lightnings), they required more than 50 hours of flight time to determine the  "V" speeds, and more importantly, to "work the bugs  out". Only then did I feel comfortable flying them on longer distances.

  

 I sometimes find myself becoming too anxious to fly and tempted to  skip the details. It is then I must remind myself that guys like Buz and  Nick, and the folks at the FAA, are much more knowledgeable and skilled pilots  than I will ever be and how very important it is to follow time tested  rules and procedures .

  

 Fly safe.

  

 Gary Pennington

  

  

  

  

  

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

Good points Gary:

  

 I find myself o take N730AL to Shelbyville for the fly-in, but am skeptical that I would be able to complete all of my flight testing in time.

  

 Better to stay safe and hitch a ride.

  

 Jim!



 

 On 8/25/08, GARY PENNINGTON <pennington(at)q.com (pennington(at)q.com)> wrote: [quote]    Good morning everyone!

  

 I just read the responses from Buz and Nick concerning the first 40 hours of flight in a newly built aircraft and I believe their opinions are extremely valid. I say that because, after building two other airplanes, (not Lightnings), they required more than 50 hours of flight time to determine the "V" speeds, and more importantly, to "work the bugs out". Only then did I feel comfortable flying them on longer distances.

   

 I sometimes find myself becoming too anxious to fly and tempted to skip the details. It is then I must remind myself that guys like Buz and Nick, and the folks at the FAA, are much more knowledgeable and skilled pilots than I will ever be and how very important it is to follow time tested rules and procedures .

   

 Fly safe.

  

 Gary Pennington

  

  

  

  

  

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: I flew, I flew!!!

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hello Jim

  

 I envy you....flying that beautiful bird.

  

 Gary

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