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flicka750

Joined: 02 Aug 2008
Posts: 31

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

Well today I got email from Zenith. Imagine that! 



What I was told was that the drawings wouldn't be done until the end of the year, thus I can assume that my CH-750 plans will not be available until post new-year. I was also told that nobody knows anything;) Imagine that!



Seems like the wings might be available by the end the year, and maybe the whole kit?



OK what follows is what I was told today by ZEN 8/26/2008



"The lead time for the wings is 15 weeks and that will place the order for December and at that time it may be that the complete kit would be ready.

As this is a new aircraft and was just released we do not have everything available and that is why we cannot answer all questions yet.  The drawings have not been completed and probably will not be ready till end of year.  I am sorry if this is not want you want to hear, but if you have further questions, let me know."



15 weeks for wings, and maybe the whole?, I would bet a cold PBR that we'll not see a whole until next summer.



The other day there was someone here saying that he ordered floats for his 701 last year, to delivered in May08, and still hasn't seen them, ...



Well my rudder is done, and I ordered the CH-750 plans over a month ago, 



It really surprises me that companys do this, e.g. announce product so far before availability. I know Van's is doing this with the RV-12 (LSA), where the wings can only be ordered, and the rest who knows, and it was a long time ago, I think they took 40 orders at the SUNnFUN, that's how long ago they have been selling a plane that doesn't exist. ( Well except for prototype ).



The theory is normal biz, wouldn't do this, but I understand that the CH-701 is back-ordered 3+ months because of tremendous demand from Europe. Basically they're now charging a fortune to take-off & land at private/public strips, and thus everyone wants a CH-701 so they can take off and land in their backyard. Note having acreage in Europe is a big deal, so these are obviously wealth people in Europe buying all these CH-701 kits.



Zenith is back-ordered either way, so its not like people waiting for CH-750's is holding up 701 purchases, nobody is going to get their's tomorrow either way!



All I ever wanted to hear was the truth:>



Time goes quick, a mission without plans and information is not a mission.



***



Scratch building SR-71's since 1946.

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agibeaut

Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Posts: 64

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

OK, now I get it, you've just discovered that the world does not revolve around you and you're pissed. Give it a rest Dude. You may need the advice, guidance, and help from some of the experienced builders you are irritating right now. You may also need the help of the very good and patient folks at Zenith. Oh, sorry, that does not matter to you because you are the Center of the Universe.



This is a builders forum, not a bitch session and most of us are not interested in being your audience. Maybe you just are not cut out to be a builder. I can tell you from my own building experience over the last year and a half, that if you can't take the little bit of frustration you've experienced at this beginner's stage, you will never be able to persevere long enough to get it built. 



You've only just begun, and listen to yourself. Actually, I think you just enjoy the controversey. My guess is that the building you describe is likely a figment of your imagination, and you just like being obnoxious. 



Have you considered electric trains as a hobby?  That's on a different forum.

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, flicka750 <flicka750(at)gmail.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   From: flicka750 <flicka750(at)gmail.com>

 Subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

 To: zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:20 PM

 

 "flicka750" <flicka750(at)gmail.com>

 

 Well today I got email from Zenith. Imagine that! 

 

 What I was told was that the drawings wouldn't be done

 until the end of the year, thus I can assume that my CH-750

 plans will not be available until post new-year. I was also

 told that nobody knows anything;) Imagine that!

 

 Seems like the wings might be available by the end the

 year, and maybe the whole kit?

 

 OK what follows is what I was told today by ZEN 8/26/2008

 

 "The lead time for the wings is 15 weeks and that will

 place the order for December and at that time it may be that

 the complete kit would be ready.

 As this is a new aircraft and was just released we do not

 have everything available and that is why we cannot answer

 all questions yet.  The drawings have not been completed and

 probably will not be ready till end of year.  I am sorry if

 this is not want you want to hear, but if you have further

 questions, let me know."

 

 15 weeks for wings, and maybe the whole?, I would bet a

 cold PBR that we'll not see a whole until next summer.

 

 The other day there was someone here saying that he ordered

 floats for his 701 last year, to delivered in May08, and

 still hasn't seen them, ...

 

 Well my rudder is done, and I ordered the CH-750 plans over

 a month ago, 

 

 It really surprises me that companys do this, e.g. announce

 product so far before availability. I know Van's is

 doing this with the RV-12 (LSA), where the wings can only be

 ordered, and the rest who knows, and it was a long time ago,

 I think they took 40 orders at the SUNnFUN, that's how

 long ago they have been selling a plane that doesn't

 exist. ( Well except for prototype ).

 

 The theory is normal biz, wouldn't do this, but I

 understand that the CH-701 is back-ordered 3+ months because

 of tremendous demand from Europe. Basically they're now

 charging a fortune to take-off & land at private/public

 strips, and thus everyone wants a CH-701 so they can take

 off and land in their backyard. Note having acreage in

 Europe is a big deal, so these are obviously wealth people

 in Europe buying all these CH-701 kits.

 

 Zenith is back-ordered either way, so its not like people

 waiting for CH-750's is holding up 701 purchases, nobody

 is going to get their's tomorrow either way!

 

 All I ever wanted to hear was the truth:>

 

 Time goes quick, a mission without plans and information is

 not a mission.

 

 ***

 

 Scratch building SR-71's since 1946.

 

 --------

 flicka750(AT)gmail

 EINSTEIN:&quot;Common sense is the accumulated

 prejudices before the age of 18&quot;

 TWAIN: &quot;Intercourse is life's most over-rated

 pleasure, defecation is life's most under-rated

 pleasure&quot; - Letter's From Earth

 

 

 

 

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 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0814#200814

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

In a message dated 8/26/2008 7:21:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  flicka750(at)gmail.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Scratch    building SR-71's since 1946. 	


 

 Hey, I guess we do have something in common (sic) my Pops had a Supervisor  named Kelly Johnson when he was working at Burbank Lockheed in 1951. This was  after my Dad got his degree at Northrop.

  

 Flicka, now and forever, the only thing that comes to mind with any thing  that slimes from your mouth is what you do with a Booger.

 Welcome to my SPAM list

  

 Joe Motis

  

 Archive???  No No NO

  

 Screw off Ya phonie



It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.

  [quote][b]

Joemotis(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

In a message dated 8/26/2008 8:05:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  aagibeaut(at)yahoo.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Have you    considered electric trains as a hobby? 	


 

 Hey wait, I have electric trains too, and old tractors, and minibikes, and  parts of airplanes, and 289's that you can hear run and 4 WD that only run on  2...Old Diesels..   Hey.... They said their was no math.......

  

 Do not archive cuz they might be on to us

  

 Jo

  

 Arizona, Alaska,California and as much as I hate to admit it,  Texas



It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.

  [quote][b]

bootless(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

We're down 4-2 now



Joemotis(at)aol.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   In a message dated 8/26/2008 7:21:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 

 flicka750(at)gmail.com writes:



     Scratch building SR-71's since 1946.



 Hey, I guess we do have something in common (sic) my Pops had a 

 Supervisor named Kelly Johnson when he was working at Burbank Lockheed 

 in 1951. This was after my Dad got his degree at Northrop.

  

 Flicka, now and forever, the only thing that comes to mind with any 

 thing that slimes from your mouth is what you do with a Booger.

 Welcome to my SPAM list

  

 Joe Motis

  

 Archive???  No No NO

  

 Screw off Ya phonie



 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

 It's only a deal if it's where /you/ want to go. Find your travel deal 

 *here* 

 <http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047>.

 *

 *

bootless(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

Oops - sorry, everyone. The Giants score from another message snuck into 

the list!



(never mind and do not archive, please)



Cory Emberson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <bootless(at)earthlink.net>



 We're down 4-2 now



 Joemotis(at)aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 8/26/2008 7:21:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 

> flicka750(at)gmail.com writes:

>

>     Scratch building SR-71's since 1946.

>

> Hey, I guess we do have something in common (sic) my Pops had a 

> Supervisor named Kelly Johnson when he was working at Burbank 

> Lockheed in 1951. This was after my Dad got his degree at Northrop.

>  

> Flicka, now and forever, the only thing that comes to mind with any 

> thing that slimes from your mouth is what you do with a Booger.

> Welcome to my SPAM list

>  

> Joe Motis

>  

> Archive???  No No NO

>  

> Screw off Ya phonie

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> It's only a deal if it's where /you/ want to go. Find your travel 

> deal *here* 

> <http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047>.

> *

> *

bobefx(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

Mr Horses behind

  

 Try to buy one of the new green cars hitting the market in the next year or whenever. They have been taking deposits for years and have some sort of date for delivery. I have not seen one of them make the date. I like 3 wheeled electric and hybrid cars, and have been following them for years. A couple have hit the market with a vary high price for what you get, but all the rest are still promising a car some day. All have hundreds if not thousands of reservations, with deposits of from $100, to $5000.00. The kit industry is not the first or the last to do this. Look around. You have the Internet, or you would not be taking up space here with your drivel. 

  

 Bob

 do not archive



 

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zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

Test  

   

Do not archive  

     

Mark Townsend  

Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.  

president(at)can-zacaviation.com (president(at)can-zacaviation.com)  

www.can-zacaviation.com   

  

   

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dan(at)hillsgun.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

I think you should build something else that you will be happy with, because

from reading your posts it appears you will be dissatisfied with whatever

Zenith has to offer. Dan, 701 scratch builder.



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flicka750

Joined: 02 Aug 2008
Posts: 31

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: CH-750 Plans - Drawings After Xmas

 	  dan(at)hillsgun.com wrote: 	
		  I think you should build something else that you will be happy with, because

from reading your posts it appears you will be dissatisfied with whatever

Zenith has to offer. Dan, 701 scratch builder.



-- 	




I think I understand. If someone asks a question, just tell them that they're a dissatified human being, and they should just jump off a cliff. Rather than offering just insipid advice, why not remain silent?



Given that the inference here is that your an expert on 701 satisfaction, perhaps you can tell us how CANZAC is putting O-200's (215LB'S) INTO 701'S??

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