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kenryan(at)alaska.net
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 Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: rotax certified |
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Can anyone explain what the difference is between a FAA certified Rotax
and one that is not certified?
Ken Ryan
Starting to lean to the 750
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brothapig(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: rotax certified |
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The dealer that I talked to at AirVenture one year said the only difference was the name plate and the price tag.
Don't know how true that is.
Maybe there is more testing of the certified engine before it is shipped out to be sold?
> From: kenryan(at)alaska.net
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bobkat(at)btinet.net
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: rotax certified |
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I think it's paperwork and about another $4000.00 between the 912S and
912ULS!
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john.marzulli(at)gmail.co
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject: rotax certified |
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I have been told the certified 912 goes though a more rigorous inspection process and also ships with carb heat.
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
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On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Ryan Vechinski <brothapig(at)hotmail.com (brothapig(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] The dealer that I talked to at AirVenture one year said the only difference was the name plate and the price tag.
Don't know how true that is.
Maybe there is more testing of the certified engine before it is shipped out to be sold?
> From: kenryan(at)alaska.net (kenryan(at)alaska.net)
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Starting to lean to the 750
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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: rotax certified |
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My non-certified 912ULS has carb heat.
At a talk at this year’s Oshkosh Phil Lockwood said the difference was the paper trail.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith701801-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Marzulli
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:14 PM
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Subject: Re: rotax certified
I have been told the certified 912 goes though a more rigorous inspection process and also ships with carb heat.
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Ryan Vechinski <brothapig(at)hotmail.com (brothapig(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
The dealer that I talked to at AirVenture one year said the only difference was the name plate and the price tag.
Don't know how true that is.
Maybe there is more testing of the certified engine before it is shipped out to be sold?
> From: kenryan(at)alaska.net (kenryan(at)alaska.net)
> To: zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)
> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:13:49 -0800
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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: rotax certified |
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Ken,
It used to be about $5000.00 and some paperwork.
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 9/1/2008 4:14:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kenryan(at)alaska.net writes:
| Quote: | Can anyone explain what the difference is between a FAA certified Rotax
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Ken Ryan
Starting to lean to the 750
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It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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ggower_99(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: rotax certified |
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Cost $$$$
Do not archive.
--- On Mon, 9/1/08, Ken Ryan <kenryan(at)alaska.net> wrote:
| Quote: | From: Ken Ryan <kenryan(at)alaska.net>
Subject: rotax certified
To: zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 4:13 PM
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Can anyone explain what the difference is between a FAA certified Rotax
and one that is not certified?
Ken Ryan
Starting to lean to the 750
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txpilot
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: Re: rotax certified |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a certified Rotax can only have maintenance signed off by a "Person approved by the respective Aviation Authority" (i.e. - an A&P). All Rotax service bulletins are divided into "Certified" and "Non-Certified" shown as 'UL'. The only difference between these certified and non-certified SB's are in Section 3: Accomplishment. They add that work may be accomplished by 'persons with adequate type-specific training'.
In other words, if you have a 912ULS (non-certified), you can do the work on it and sign off on the work. It doesn't affect the certification because the engine isn't certified to begin with. However, if you have a 912S, it is a certified engine and all maintenance work must be accomplished in compliance with appropriate maintenance manual and applicable SB's and be signed off by an A&P. If you don't the engine loses its certification.
For the purpose of this forum, I can't see a reason to get a 912S over a 912ULS since the CH701 is experimental anyway. The only advantage I could see is the flight test time is reduced from 40 to 25 hours.
Dan Ginty
N787DG
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