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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) Reply with quote

The subject says it all. Putting together the control column and pivots. I did not do it by the book cause I could not see how coming in from the top would help me to turn the pivot into the mount. What a pain! Below is a picture of how I did it. It's a bit irrelevant though because I seem to have trouble reaming the .250" holes. The bit wobbled through the one on the end of the column and also through the right stick pivot. Sticking bolts through the holes, they go in very loose. So I guess I'll be ordering new parts from Kitfox. Anyone out there have photos of how they did theirs? And John, if you're reading this, just looking for pictures that's all.



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) Reply with quote

Tip:
Pull the reamer. Meaning use the shaft to provide the alignment to
prevent an ovulated hole. I use an old drill chuck so I can get a
fist full for hand reaming. I never use a drill for reaming. To easy
to screw up the hole.
Your pic failed.
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At 05:57 PM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
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The subject says it all. Putting together the control column and
pivots. I did not do it by the book cause I could not see how coming
in from the top would help me to turn the pivot into the mount. What
a pain! Below is a picture of how I did it. It's a bit irrelevant
though because I seem to have trouble reaming the .250" holes. The
bit wobbled through the one on the end of the column and also
through the right stick pivot. Sticking bolts through the holes,
they go in very loose. So I guess I'll be ordering new parts from
Kitfox. Anyone out there have photos of how they did theirs? And
John, if you're reading this, just looking for pictures that's all.
(http://imageshack.us), (http://imageshack.us)

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Jorge Fernandez
Supersport
Just starting!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) Reply with quote

I second Paul's suggestion to PULL the reamer through the hole. Need
a 1/4" hole? Drill with a 15/64" drill bit, then use a .249" reamer,
then check the fit of the bolt. If it doesn't fit use the .250"
reamer....but PULL the reamer through the hole, never push it.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...short block assembled, as well as two heads.
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")

On Sep 6, 2008, at 8:15 PM, paul wilson wrote:

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Tip:
Pull the reamer. Meaning use the shaft to provide the alignment to
prevent an ovulated hole. I use an old drill chuck so I can get a
fist full for hand reaming. I never use a drill for reaming. To
easy to screw up the hole.
Your pic failed.
Paul
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At 05:57 PM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
>
> <jlfernan(at)bellsouth.net>
>
> The subject says it all. Putting together the control column and
> pivots. I did not do it by the book cause I could not see how
> coming in from the top would help me to turn the pivot into the
> mount. What a pain! Below is a picture of how I did it. It's a bit
> irrelevant though because I seem to have trouble reaming the .250"
> holes. The bit wobbled through the one on the end of the column
> and also through the right stick pivot. Sticking bolts through the
> holes, they go in very loose. So I guess I'll be ordering new
> parts from Kitfox. Anyone out there have photos of how they did
> theirs? And John, if you're reading this, just looking for
> pictures that's all.
> (http://imageshack.us), (http://imageshack.us)
>
> --------
> Jorge Fernandez
> Supersport
> Just starting!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2970#202970
>



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) Reply with quote

The problem with pulling it through is that it's on the closed end of the mount. The tight space and the powder-coat inside the hole made it impossible for me to pull the reamer through.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) Reply with quote

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The problem with pulling it through is that it's on the closed end of the mount. The tight space and the powder-coat inside the hole made it impossible for me to pull the reamer through.


Jorge, I supplemented the reamer set with the the next two sizes under each size that came with my kitfox tool kit. Many places I had to start with a reamer one or two sizes smaller to ream just the powder coating out of the way.

You should be able to slide the reamers in from the open end of the control column and then through the pivot hole on the closed end. Same as you will place the bolt there.

I ruined a few parts myself, some more than once. Hopefully your control column can be fixed with a little welding.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) Reply with quote

Jorge,

I am building a model IV so am not really familiar with the Supersport
parts, but I find also that after reaming the stick pivots, there is a bit
of slop. what I do, at least on the pilot side, is drill out the pivot a
bit on each side, maybe a quarter inch, then put a bushing in that is reamed
to the proper inside diameter. I make the bushings of Delron plastic that
is reputed to be self lubricating. I did it on the old airplane and it
worked for the 900 hours it survived. I just did it on the new one as well.

Lowell

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) Reply with quote

After some some advice I received offline, I assembled the right mount with the control column. Once the nut and bolt were tightened everything squared up and everything was solid, no problem here. I'm still going to get a new right pivot.

Very Happy


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