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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte

It is true, I put mine on my doors, upside down so it is readable when the

person enters the plane.....



Plug for Abbey.......she did a great job of sewing it on my door

upholstery...she knew what size to make it, so you guessed it, I don't.  You

always learn from doing.....no so much from paying to have it done. 



Rene' Felker

RV-10 N423CF Flying

801-721-6080



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte

As with anything in the FAR's, it's there and worded very specifically.

The placard you're asking about is in section (b).  I do believe

that although many people get away with putting it on the rear

passenger armrest area, or on the bulkhead wall in the baggage

area, those are actually not in conformance and not meeting the

intention, which is to inform people as they board.



See below: "Near the entrance"

FAR Sec. 45.23



Display of marks; general.



(a) Each operator of an aircraft shall display on that aircraft marks 

consisting of the Roman capital letter "N" (denoting United States 

registration) followed by the registration number of the aircraft. Each 

suffix letter used in the marks displayed must also be a Roman capital 

letter.

[(b) When marks include only the Roman capital letter "N" and the 

registration number is displayed on limited, restricted or light-sport 

category aircraft or experimental or provisionally certificated 

aircraft, the operator must also display on that aircraft near each 

entrance to the cabin, cockpit, or pilot station, in letters not less 

than 2 inches nor more than 6 inches high, the words "limited," 

"restricted," "light-sport," "experimental," or "provisional," as 

applicable.]



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

tomhanaway wrote:

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 I've heard, but can't find documentation that the word "experimental"

 is required on the interior of our planes.

 

 I'm not talking about the panel placard but on either interior of

 door, baggage bulkhead or similar location.

 

 If this is true, is there any specific size or style of lettering

 required?  Source of requirement?

 

 Thanks, Tom Hanaway Boynton Beach, FL

 

 

 

 

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tomhanaway

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Posts: 111
Location: Murphy, NC

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Standards for word

That was quick,

Thanks.



Since Abby at Flightline is doing my interior, I'll go with the doors.

Tom

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greghale

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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Standards for word

Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters.  I checked with EAA about the FAR and what is really required.  They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft.  The great thing I found out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it has to be at least 2" tall and not taller than 6".  This was perfect.  I used my computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still had the 2" height.  A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved in it and will be inset into the upper interior door panel.  I attached some pictures on what I did.



Greg Hale

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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte

Thanks for the great idea.  I have a friend who does engraving.  Was not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on each door.  I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards about the same size you made.  He can do them in most colors.  Anyone else interested, let me know.  I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry, haven't had time to do the conversion.... it's one he made for my cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.

 Don



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Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the

standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters.  I checked

with EAA about the FAR and what is really required.  They told me the wording

has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft.  The great thing I found

out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it has to be at

least 2" tall and not taller than 6".  This was perfect.  I used my

computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still had the

2" height.  A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved in it and

will be inset into the upper interior door panel.  I attached some pictures on

what I did.



Greg Hale

N210KH



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Kelly McMullen

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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte

Me thinks you are trying to airbrush paint with a fire hose.



On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Rick Sked <ricksked(at)embarqmail.com> wrote:

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 The intent of that statement I believe, is to show that there is as much if not more care put into the construction of most experimental aircraft. As far as the maintenance requirements they are the same, and after observing some of the work performed by "Certified" mechanics, no thanks...But Just in case....I want to thank Cessna, Piper, Mooney and all of the other "certified" manufacturers of aircraft for leading the way and providing the bar of excellence we all need to strive for...Who knows how Spaceship one could have ever succeeded making into space if it wasn't for these companies establishing the standards for all of us to strive for.



 As for me, I'll just cobble along with my project ever so grateful for this newly found entity I have failed to thank each night in my prayers. And yes, My therapist is helping me through my sarcastic attitude.  



 Just my two cents...or 7 cents Canadian..



 Rick Sked

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