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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a 

25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it 

say's draws 15 amps (at) 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage 

circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.

Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor 

trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service 

personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and 

reset the breaker.

DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff  is way 

beyond  my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it 

appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/ 

15 amp motors.



Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be 

'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will 

not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?

Deems



not so patiently waiting on my painter...............

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

The problem is the startup current of the motor.  The start winding 

draws a lot of current getting up to speed where the run winding takes 

over .... and uses less current.  Typically the oilless compressors work 

better, but you won't get the volume you're used to.  It's a trade off.  

The other problem is how far from the breaker box you are.  Hangar 

wiring is notoriously small .... the hangars were designed to house 

airplanes .... not be manufacturing facilities.  When we built new 

hangars at my airport I inquired if we could increase the current 

capability by paying a little more for the increased cost of the 

wiring.  Hangars are designed with a power density .... so much power 

per sq. foot.  I wanted 220 available for my big compressor and paid an 

extra $150 for the addition, and it was drawn into the plans.  It was 

cooperation with the airport that made the difference.



Now for a little 'cheat' ...... typically hangars are wired so that 

every other hangar is on the same leg of the 220.  If you steal the hot  

leg from the hangar next to you, and use your leg, you have 220 service, 

and the 15A breakers will do just fine ...... unless you're on the 

opposite end of the hangar from the breakers!

Linn

Deems Davis wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a 

 25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it 

 say's draws 15 amps (at) 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage 

 circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.

 Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the 

 compressor trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport 

 service personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come 

 out and reset the breaker.

 DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff  is way 

 beyond  my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but 

 it appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all 

 come w/ 15 amp motors.



 Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be 

 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which 

 will not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?

 Deems



 not so patiently waiting on my painter...............

pascal(at)rv10builder.net
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

I have a Craftsman 2HP 25 gallon 

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00919541000P same amps but never 

has been an issue for me with a 15amp circuit and other electrical items 

running on the same circuit.

You may want to assure that your CH is running alone with nothing else 

running when you have it compress air. I turn my off "auto" and manually 

select to have it load up again at my timing not whenever it feels it needs 

it. The result is never a popped circuit.

Pascal



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From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis(at)cox.net>

Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:38 PM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a 25 

 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it say's 

 draws 15 amps (at) 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage circuit, 

 which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.

 Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor 

 trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service personnel 

 are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and reset the 

 breaker.

 DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff  is way beyond 

 my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it appears 

 that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/ 15 amp 

 motors.



 Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be 

 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will 

 not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?

 Deems



 not so patiently waiting on my painter...............

ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Have them replace the breaker with 20 amp, it should be 12-2 wire and plenty enough to handle the load plus the breaker may be shot anyhow 

---

Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Hmm, Home Depot has Husky 30 gal that is what I am using..but I have

20 amp circuit at the hangar, but I also am running all the lights on

same circuit. Lowes has equivalent Kobalt. Both are oil lubed, belt

driven compressors that I think have much lower starting current than

the oil-free pumps.



On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a 25 yr

 old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it say's draws

 15 amps (at) 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage circuit, which I

 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.

 Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor

 trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service personnel

 are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and reset the

 breaker.

 DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff  is way beyond  my

 understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it appears that

 most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/ 15 amp motors.



 Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be 'fixed'

 to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will not trip?

 What are you guys using at the hangar?

 Deems



 not so patiently waiting on my painter...............

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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Not at most city owned hangars. It isn't uncommon for more than one

hangar to share a breaker, and wiring often is 14-2. They are not

interested in increasing capacity for owners. However, Deems, at DVT

there are relatively new outlets on the shades in front of the hangars

and they may be higher capacity.



On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:17 PM,  <ricksked(at)embarqmail.com> wrote:

[quote] 



 Have them replace the breaker with 20 amp, it should be 12-2 wire and plenty enough to handle the load plus the breaker may be shot anyhow

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

I guess it's time to break out the Y2K generator. . Or, just break  

in one night and slip on a 20A, but you have to be prepared to  

categorically deny the charges (and have a good alibi) when your  

hangar burns down or become a fugitive (I hear Ecuador is nice this  

time of year).



Do not archive



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

352-427-0285



On Sep 23, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using  

 a 25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which  

 it say's draws 15 amps (at) 115VAC . It would frequently trip the  

 garage circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A)  

 breaker.

 Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the  

 compressor trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport  

 service personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come  

 out and reset the breaker.

 DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff  is way  

 beyond  my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor,  

 but it appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools  

 all come w/ 15 amp motors.



 Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be  

 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which  

 will not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?

 Deems



 not so patiently waiting on my painter...............

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Boy, this discussion really makes us sound like a bunch of sneeky old men.... oh, I guess we are!  I have a compressor I bought at Home Depot, can't remember which one, but it has 3 speeds.  So you could find which speed you can use without tripping the breaker.  My  hanger has a junction box in the center overhead.  When I openned it up, I found that they had terminated all the wires with wire ties that lead to the rest of the hangers down the line.  So naturally I tied into one of them, and now I have 2 20amp services.... one for each side of the hanger.   Don



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 [quote]From: ricksked(at)embarqmail.com <ricksked(at)embarqmail.com>

Subject: Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

To: "Rv" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 4:17 PM



[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: ricksked(at)embarqmail.com  Have them replace the breaker with 20 amp, it should be 12-2 wire and plenty enough to handle the load plus the breaker may be shot anyhow  ---

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Well, you can't just change the breaker, as was suggested.  You need

to KNOW that the wire is not only of the proper gauge, but not

over a certain length, also.  If you have extremely long runs back

to the fuse panel, as some hangars are, you may need to have either

larger wires run, or larger wires AND an increased breaker size, IF

that still works for the overall panel rating and usages.  So it's

not just something you can do a quick fix on....it takes someone

who knows the requirements to do it right.  Any less and you're

risking yours and other peoples airplanes to fire.   In my hangar,

I was routinely tripping my breaker, one circuit that runs the

doors, lights, and everything, when I ran the compressor.

I took care of it a few ways...



First, when I run the door, everything else is off. The startup

current on the door required that.



Later, when I needed the compressor, I was tired of resetting

the breaker all the time.  One thing helped a little....letting

the compressor run out of air before you started it.  Startups

where the piston has to get moving against high pressure took

more torque.  So an empty tank is less likely to trip the

breaker....although that might not be enough.



Ultimately, the permanent solution for me was:  I left the

door and lights on the existing circuit.  I then pulled some

nice heavy wire....I think 8 or 10ga, and put in 2 new circuits.

A 4-gang outlet back by my workbench...so the compressor would

have a minimum of cord length (which helps....the voltage

drop on the line will cause a higher starting current if you have

long wire runs), and then I put a couple other outlets near

the sides of the plane that were on those new circuits.  Now

all of my tools get plugged into the heavier capacity circuit.



So in the end, probably the best way to fix it is to hire an

electrician to pull another circuit into your hangar just for

your tools.  In the long run it's a few hundred bucks well spent.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Deems Davis wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a 

 25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it 

 say's draws 15 amps (at) 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage 

 circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.

 Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor 

 trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service 

 personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and 

 reset the breaker.

 DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff  is way 

 beyond  my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it 

 appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/ 

 15 amp motors.

 

 Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be 

 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will 

 not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?

 

 

 Deems

 

 not so patiently waiting on my painter...............

DLIUDVINAITIS(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Deams

  

   Do not change the breaker to 20 amp. the wire in hanger is problem  14-2 wire rated gauge. a 20 amp circuit would have a 12-2 wire rated gauge,  as stated by others this could cause a fire or trips from motor starts  (higher amp pulls).  Deams your 25 yr old compressor might be the problem.  1) I would drain & change the compressor oil to lower viscosity (buy (at)  homedepot or sears).  2)  check belt tension. to tight this will cause  higher startup amps ( need amp meter to check) look (at) motor plate to find  runnning amps. hope this can help if not recommend electrican or just buy newer  compressor.

  

 Dave Ludd

 40466  NJ,

  

  In a message dated 9/23/2008 5:40:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  deemsdavis(at)cox.net writes:

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I'm    moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a 

25 yr    old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it 

say's    draws 15 amps (at) 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage 

circuit,    which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.

Well, the electric    service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor 

trips the breaker    every time it plugged in. The airport service 

personnel are getting    annoyed at me calling for them to come out and 

reset the breaker.

DC    electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff  is way    

beyond  my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but    it 

appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/    

15 amp motors.



Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my    old compressor be 

'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with    one which will 

not trip? What are you guys using at the    hangar?

Deems



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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Before I was in the aircraft building business, I purchased a small pancake

type of compressor used to build a deck.   It's an oil less with only about

6 gal of capacity.  I just checked it only draws 10 amps. While it wouldn't

be good for general building, it may be good enough to get you by in the

hangar.



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

That's a good way to go.  I didn't mention in my post that I left

my nice high-flowing CH compressor at home because that's where

any hard building would be done, and I got a used Craftsman 20

or 25 gallon for the hangar.  It's still bigger (and far far

noisier) than I need for the occasional hangar use.  So yeah,

investing in a light duty compressor could be a quick way around

the problem too.  Depends on if you plan to bring other tools,

like I bought a drill press, and a few other tools for the hangar

so I wouldn't have to bring mine from home.  If you're just in

need of a little air, get the small compresor, but if you're trying

to build a little workshop, just have someone wire the place

the way you want.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Bob Leffler wrote:

[quote] 

 

 Before I was in the aircraft building business, I purchased a small pancake

 type of compressor used to build a deck.   It's an oil less with only about

 6 gal of capacity.  I just checked it only draws 10 amps. While it wouldn't

 be good for general building, it may be good enough to get you by in the

 hangar.

 

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Thanks to all who provided suggestions, both on and off-line. My plan is:



1. check/service the old compressor (change oil and re- tension belt)

2. Investigate alternative power options with Airport maintenance.  KDVT 

is the busiest general aviation airport in the US and is owned and 

operated by the City of Phoenix, they have a 3 year waiting list to get 

into hangars , and set of rules that would choke a horse, enforced by 

annual and periodic random inspections. All of which seems to have 

turned the notion of being serice/servant to the public on it ear.

3. Obtain a light duty compressor for hangar use. And move 'Ol Reliable 

back home.

Thanks



Deems



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jkreidler

Joined: 13 Feb 2008
Posts: 151
Location: Sheboygan Falls WI

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Deems, I spend my days engineering electric motors, so I can spend my nights building airplanes.  I have also spent a bit of my career engineering air compressors. 

 

A few things you could look at to help solve your problem.  Check what sort of pressure switch your compressor has; the pressure switch may, or may not have a pressure bleed off built in.  This is a device that releases the residual pressure in the compressor head, not in the tank.  The purpose is to let the motor get a running start, instead of starting under immediate load.  If you compressor 'hisses' when it shuts down, sorta like air brakes on a semi, then it is most likely already equipped with this device.  You can sometimes also tell by looking for separate small airline leading to the switch.  This is an easy retrofit, and adding such a switch could solve your problem, maybe. 

 

From a motor standpoint, the motor could draw as much as seven times the rated full load amps at start up, in your case we are talking about 105amps, that is a big number!!  There are different motor designs available to ease the starting current, check to see if the motor that is installed has two capacitors, one start cap (usually black), and a run cap (usually silver).  If you only have one cap, you could change out the motor for a cap start, cap run type motor.  This could also solve the problem.  As was suggested before if you can get 220 voltage, it would most likely solve the problem all by itself.  Just make sure you are getting two separate legs.  Assuming this is a public place, you will most likely need to get a pro involved. 

 

Keep in mind, I engineer the mechanical parts, this new found electrical stuff frightens and confuses me.  Electricity is just a passing fad, like carpet, or automobiles. 



 Thanks, Jason Kreidler 

4-Partner Build (Jason Kreidler, Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elsner) 

Sheboygan Falls, WI 

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scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

OK, all you EE majors weigh in here. 



Do you know if you have more than one circuit in your hanger?  

If so, buy a couple of plugs and wire them together in parallel, then into a female plug end.  



I think this should give you 120 volts and 30 amps.  Blast me if I'm wrong here. 

This could be the cheapest solution.  



If not, buy an oil less compressor.  I run my Sears compressor on 15 amps all the time. 



If you don't have two circuits steal one from the next door neighbor and just run an extension cord over to you place. 

 

Scott Schmidtscottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com



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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Well, Thanks to all for the suggestions. I made a trip to the hangar 

this am. Jason, I found the compressor is equipped with all of the 

features you mentioned (bleed valve & capacitors), I removed the belt 

guard, and checked tension which appears 'normal' (?) then removed the 

old (black) oil and replaced it with new compressor oil from Lowes, gave 

it several turns of the flywheel manually to lubricate the cyls then 

plugged it in directly to the outlet vs the extension cord and......... 

Viola! it worked!!!!! no tripped circuit ?!?!? I should mention that 

there were no other folks out in the adjacent hangars today. I checked 

with airport nazis ops about the possibility of changing/modifying the 

service........ I think they are still laughing, glad I could make their 

day. They told me that there were up to 3 other hangars on the same 

circuit, so who knows how long this will work, but it should suffice for 

the intermittent needs for final assembly and maint at the hangar

Deems Davis

do not archive



Scott Schmidt wrote:

[quote] OK, all you EE majors weigh in here.



 Do you know if you have more than one circuit in your hanger? 

 If so, buy a couple of plugs and wire them together in parallel, then 

 into a female plug end. 



 I think this should give you 120 volts and 30 amps.  Blast me if I'm 

 wrong here.

 This could be the cheapest solution. 



 If not, buy an oil less compressor.  I run my Sears compressor on 15 

 amps all the time.



 If you don't have two circuits steal one from the next door neighbor 

 and just run an extension cord over to you place.

  

 Scott Schmidt

 scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com

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jcumins(at)jcis.net
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Hey Deems



The Nut Tree airport in Northern California is the same way.  There

maintenance man is like a little Hitler and will bust your chops on any rule

violation he can see or sniff out. 



The hangers are privately or county owned with a set of rules that an

attorney very proud of.  And no they do not allow any experimental building

in the hangers. A kit does not constitute a airplane, and it will not

qualify for a hanger, it must be a registered airworthy airplane to qualify

for a hanger.  The waiting list is over 4 yrs now.  So ya do everything ya

can to keep the hanger ya have.



John



40864 Rubber inprocess.



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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

OK, here is the solution if your fix ever fails.  

You just need to install the Rockwell automation device described in the video below and you will be in great shape. 

I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner. 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuhYd9L_d7w

 

Scott Schmidtscottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com



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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Scott Schmidt wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   OK, all you EE majors weigh in here.



 Do you know if you have more than one circuit in your hanger? 

 If so, buy a couple of plugs and wire them together in parallel, then 

 into a female plug end. 



 I think this should give you 120 volts and 30 amps.  Blast me if I'm 

 wrong here.

 This could be the cheapest solution. 

Well, this can get you hurt.  Funny story.  Might have been sad.  My Dad 
	


had need for higher current to his ham shack for his new linear.  He 

followed your same reasoning ..... just parallel them.  His panel was 

the old kind with two fuses (picture 3" long, 1/2" dia) in a block that 

plugged into his panel.  So, his idea was to wrap a piece of wire around 

one end of the block, put the fuses back in and ..... I told him it 

wouldn't work that way.  Here it comes:  "Of course it will, son!!!"  

Well, I talked him into wrapping a towel around his hand (gloves would 

have been better) but couldn't talk him our of his 'experiment'.  The 

noise when he plugged that into the panel was like a .45 going off close 

by.  Really loud in that garage!!!!  The inside of the fuse block had 

this nice copper finish to it.  He still didn't understand what was 

wrong with his ohms law logic ..... and there wasn't any.  He shorted 

the two legs of the 220 together.  It's the simple mistakes that you pay 

so dearly for.



Even if he had been successful, the wiring would still have been too 

small, and could have resulted in fire.  So, if you want to play 

electrician, get some training first.  If you're in a hurry ..... spend 

the money on an electrician.  You'll possibly save a whole bundle on 

hospital bills ..... if you survive.  I made my living guiding electrons 

around, and the nasty b......s will turn and bite you in a heartbeat.  I 

just want you folks to be safe.



I'll bet that Rick has seen some pretty stupid stuff with his work ..... 

maybe he'll chime in.

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 If not, buy an oil less compressor.  I run my Sears compressor on 15 

 amps all the time.

It depends on just how far you are from the breaker box too.  Buy one 
	


where you know you can return it.

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 If you don't have two circuits steal one from the next door neighbor 

 and just run an extension cord over to you place.

Again, you might be lucky ..... or you might let the magic smoke out.  
	


Magic smoke will not work exposed to the atmosphere.  Your best and 

safest route is to get a buddy or electrician that's knowledgeable .... 

and has the tools .... such as a meter ..... to help on this project. 

Linn

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker

Scott Schmidt wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   OK, here is the solution if your fix ever fails. 

 You just need to install the Rockwell automation device described in 

 the video below and you will be in great shape.

 I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner.



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuhYd9L_d7w

  

 Scott Schmidt

 scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com

Now, that's a hoot!!!  Thanks for posting that ... I needed a good belly 
	


laugh.

Wish I knew how to suck the youtube stuff into my archive of movies.

Linn

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