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cffd(at)pgrb.com
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 Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: CH701 with Jabiru 2200 |
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The following statement was taken from "STOL Updates from Zenith Aircraft Co." e-mail I received today:
"What made this CH 701 unique was the installed powerplant: a Jabiru 2200...."
It is not clear to me what is so unique, as I and others have been flying our CH 701s behind a Jabiru 2200 since 2002.
In fact, you can see my CH 701 on ZAC's web site with the note it has a 2200.
Chuck D.
N701TX
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ch701builder
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Location: N38.9947,W105.1305,ALT. 9,100'
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: CH701 with Jabiru 2200 |
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Ya know Chuck, I thought of you when I read that statement. I’m not exactly sure what they are meaning. I even went back to the Zenith web site to look for your picture when I first read that, just to double check myself that you did have a 2200 from a while back!!
Keith
CH701—scratch—starting the cabin area
N 38.9940
W 105.1305
Alt. 9,100’ (scraping the frost off of my windshields in the mornings)
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Subject: CH701 with Jabiru 2200
The following statement was taken from "STOL Updates from Zenith Aircraft Co." e-mail I received today:
"What made this CH 701 unique was the installed powerplant: a Jabiru 2200...."
It is not clear to me what is so unique, as I and others have been flying our CH 701s behind a Jabiru 2200 since 2002.
In fact, you can see my CH 701 on ZAC's web site with the note it has a 2200.
Chuck D.
N701TX
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stepinwolf
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:31 am Post subject: Re: CH701 with Jabiru 2200 |
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I believe that it beneficial ( read that as being more profitable ) for them to stand behind a manufacturer who has done the 2200 install/conversion, in their 701, rather then an individual who through hard work, has accomplished the same task.
By bringing attention to this engine as an additional lower cost option, they increase the viability of their product, and make it more appealing or affordable.
Should it ever ( God forbid ) no longer be an acceptable option, then they have a way out since they are on file as only having stood behind the manufacturer who initial recommended it's use.
Just my 0.02$, so please don't archive
Bob the 701 + 750 scratch
Three Rivers, Quebec
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: Re: CH701 with Jabiru 2200 |
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I think they were just giving Jabiru USA a bit of airtime, as they built it and flew it in. I wouldn't take it personally.
Kevin
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dougsnash
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: CH701 with Jabiru 2200 |
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Also, perhaps they are refering to the "New" firewall forward installation from Jabiru USA rather than a one off done by a builder. Now any builder can plunk down his checkbook and have a reliable "will work" installation for the Jabiru 2200 on the CH-701. And it is a nice clean installation.
That should not belittle the groundbreaking efforts of a builder who figured it all out on their own. We all have to respect a builder who can work out the details of an untested installation and make it work.
It is good for us builders that Zenith and Jabiru USA have a positive relationship. That way we will get great support from both companies for the planes we are building.
Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
Rotax 912UL(ya, I know, why am I commenting on the Jab install)
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| Quote: | I think they were just giving Jabiru USA a bit of airtime,
as they built it and flew it in. I wouldn't take it
personally.
Kevin
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Stefan
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: CH701 with Jabiru 2200 |
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I actually attended the open house and listened to Pete Krotje making the Jabiru pitch. I don't think he did anything for Zenith. He didn't even promote the engines but tried a sale pitch on the Jabiru planes. Bad PR for Zenith. Very disappointing! After the event was over and group of local students asked him about the engines he finally got his act together.
Stefan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: CH701 with Jabiru 2200 |
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I was not trying to slam ZAC, it was just interesting to me their use of "unique" for a 701 with a 2200.
ZAC was extremely helpful and patient with my many questions while building the 701.
Pete also was also extremely helpful as I figured out how to install the 2200 as well as operate it.
At that time, ZAC felt the higher prop rpm with shorter blades of the 2200 would not be a good match for the 701 and preferred the Rotax 912.
From early on, I exchanged 701/2200 ideas with builders in England, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the USA using the 2200 in a 701.
It is good to see that ZAC now endorses the 2200 for the 701.
Both ZAC and Pete are class acts.
Chuck D.
N701TX
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