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Scooter

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 155

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: Insurance

Any options out there besides Airpower and Cannon (or US Specialty)?  I've had US Specialty on two different aircraft and it seems like their specialty is screwing pilots.

jsfox(at)adelphia.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:13 pm Post subject: Insurance

On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Scooter wrote:

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Any options out there besides Airpower and Cannon (or US Specialty)?  I've had US Specialty on two different aircraft and it seems like their specialty is screwing pilots. 



 	




Scooter,



I have no idea what you are paying for insurance and I am also sure it's none of my business either. However, I will say the price I am paying through Airpower, Tom Johnson, is as good  if not better, than I could get anywhere else. I went with Airpower over Cannon because at equal numbers I decided supporting another Yak/CJ driver who supports us was the right thing to do.



Steve  Fox

viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: Insurance

Truthfully Scooter, that is the goal of any insurance coverage. Whether it

is boat, plane, car, life, health, or home. 

Doc

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 From: Scooter <yakk52(at)verizon.net>

 To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>

 Date: 3/10/2006 6:45:30 PM

 Subject: Insurance



 



 Any options out there besides Airpower and Cannon (or US Specialty)? 

I've had US Specialty on two different aircraft and it seems like their
	


specialty is screwing pilots.

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dabear(at)damned.org
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:48 am Post subject: Insurance

Well, sort of... remember that if you get a quote from one agent

(Airpower), and then go to another agent you will either get the same

quote or a "no bid" because it is NOT the agent getting you the

insurance.  It is the insurance company that they are going to for the

insurance.  The insurance company keeps your "quote" on file and will

give the same to any other agent that requests a quote. 

DaBear

Roger Kemp wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

Truthfully Scooter, that is the goal of any insurance coverage. Whether it

is boat, plane, car, life, health, or home. 

Doc

>[Original Message]

>From: Scooter <yakk52(at)verizon.net>

>To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>

>Date: 3/10/2006 6:45:30 PM

>Subject: Insurance

>

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>Any options out there besides Airpower and Cannon (or US Specialty)? 

>    

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I've had US Specialty on two different aircraft and it seems like their

specialty is screwing pilots.

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MajorGoofinoff(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: Insurance

In a message dated 3/11/2006 5:49:20 AM Central Standard Time, dabear(at)damned.org writes:

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		  --> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear(at)damned.org>



Well, sort of... remember that if you get a quote from one agent

(Airpower), and then go to another agent you will either get the same

quote or a "no bid" because it is NOT the agent getting you the

insurance.  It is the insurance company that they are going to for the

insurance.  The insurance company keeps your "quote" on file and will

give the same to any other agent that requests a quote. 



DaBear 	


 I have heard that when you shop for insurance, don't give then the N number.  When you do give the N number you get locked in to that quote.  Example,,,  I  am LOOKING at buying a Yak, what is my insurance going to be?  

  

 Scott.

 89 Yak52

PeteAbbott(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: Insurance

If you have to give an N number, look in Trade a Plane and find a bird that  is similar to what you need. It works well but it kind of screws the guy with  the plane for sale.

  

 Pete

 N852GC

dabear(at)damned.org
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: Insurance

I've heard that as well.  But as Tom said, there are really only 2

insurance companies that provide yak insurance.  The different agents

all go to the same 2 insurance companies.



DaBear



MajorGoofinoff(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   In a message dated 3/11/2006 5:49:20 AM Central Standard Time,

 dabear(at)damned.org writes:



     



     Well, sort of... remember that if you get a quote from one agent

     (Airpower), and then go to another agent you will either get the same

     quote or a "no bid" because it is NOT the agent getting you the

     insurance.  It is the insurance company that they are going to for the

     insurance.  The insurance company keeps your "quote" on file and will

     give the same to any other agent that requests a quote.



     DaBear



 I have heard that when you shop for insurance, don't give then the N

 number.  When you do give the N number you get locked in to that

 quote.  Example,,,  I  am LOOKING at buying a Yak, what is my

 insurance going to be? 

  

 Scott.

 89 Yak52

L39parts(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:37 am Post subject: Insurance

N eight five tw... who needs Trade-A-Plane

 [quote]   ---

gus.fraser(at)gs.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: Insurance

Imagine the scene when  requests for quotes come in for 500 pilots wanting to fly N852GC  )))

  

 Gus



 [quote]         From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron    Davis

Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:37 AM

To:    yak-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re:    Insurance

   

   N eight five tw... who needs Trade-A-Plane

   [quote]     ---

aerobaticgirl(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: Insurance

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aerobaticgirl(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: Insurance

Okay, not sure what happened with my previous post, but what I said was that I found the cheapest insurance with Avemco for my Yak 55.

   

  I have an ATP and a bunch of hours, but 0 time in type, so they hammered me for about 2600/year.  But they still beat everyone else's quote, and I bugged everyone!

   

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HawkerPilot2015

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 503

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Insurance

 	  aerobaticgirl(at)yahoo.co wrote: 	
		  Okay, not sure what happened with my previous post, but what I said was that I found the cheapest insurance with Avemco for my Yak 55.

  ?

  I have an ATP and a bunch of hours, but 0 time in type, so they hammered me for about 2600/year.? But they still beat everyone else's quote, and I bugged everyone!

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That is almost $1000.00 more than what I pay for my Yak-50 with a 75K hull value! I too have an ATP with over 3000 hours and had zero time in type. Now that I fly the thing as much as I can, it will drop!



Its with Cannon right now but will look at TJ when it comes due.

aerobaticgirl(at)yahoo.co
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: Insurance

Yeah, I checked with everyone and most other companies wanted over 3500 for 55K hull value!  I also have to carry the 1 million for acro competitions, but that doesn't affect the price that much.

   

  Maybe it's a trend of companies not trusting these a/c?  I am praying that it will go down next year!

   

  Smash



Tim Gagnon <NiftyYak50(at)msn.com> wrote:

  [quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" 

aerobaticgirl(at)yahoo.co wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Okay, not sure what happened with my previous post, but what I said was that I found the cheapest insurance with Avemco for my Yak 55.

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scott-p(at)texas.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: Insurance

Did you try Falcon? I'm a CPL with about 1500  hours, but 0 in type and they only hit me for $2200 for my -55.

  

 BTW, you'll LOVE the 55!

  

 Scott

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aerobaticgirl(at)yahoo.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:45 am Post subject: Insurance

I sure did try them, tried them first and they wanted 3200 bucks.  Apparently females are higher risk these days.  This was all in the last month, so I don't know if they just went up, but you guys are making me think I am getting the big screw job here.

   

  Smash



Scott Poehlmann <scott-p(at)texas.net> wrote:

  [quote]        Did you try Falcon? I'm a CPL with about 1500 hours, but 0 in type and they only hit me for $2200 for my -55.

   

  BTW, you'll LOVE the 55!

   

  Scott

  [quote]  ---

pilot8kcab(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: Insurance

I have a Yak-55 and am insured thru Tom Johnson's agency as he is quite 

familiar with the Yaks and own a Yak-50.  Try TomJohnson(at)cox.net and see if 

he can help, his website link is below.  My policy is in the $1500 range if 

memory serves.  Last year it was $1700 with no time in type!  If you've 

checked several insurance companies within a short period its quite likely 

you've been locked out of getting a better quote (unless you've used an 

artificial N number).



www.airpowerinsurance.com



Scott



----Original Message Follows----

From: Sarah Tobin <aerobaticgirl(at)yahoo.com>

Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Insurance

Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:43:30 -0800 (PST)



I sure did try them, tried them first and they wanted 3200 bucks.  

Apparently females are higher risk these days.  This was all in the last 

month, so I don't know if they just went up, but you guys are making me 

think I am getting the big screw job here.



   Smash



Scott Poehlmann <scott-p(at)texas.net> wrote:

           Did you try Falcon? I'm a CPL with about 1500 hours, but 0 in 

type and they only hit me for $2200 for my -55.



   BTW, you'll LOVE the 55!



   Scott

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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: Insurance

 

  

 



  

  	  Quote: 	
		     Apparently females are high risk these days.

 Smash

  

 Hummmm....you think???

 Doc

aerobaticgirl(at)yahoo.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: Insurance

I did go to TJ but it was *after* getting the crappy quotes from other people.  (Falcon/AOPA/Avemco).  He couldn't do any better than Avemco.  I used the existing N # and went thru the previous owners insurance (Falcon) expecting a decent quote, perhaps a bit higher due to my 0 time in type, but wasn't expecting double what he was paying!



  Okay, I think I am going to go stick my head in an oven now...you guys are killing me!  How did I get the big screw?  UGH

   

  Smash

  

Scott Kirk <pilot8kcab(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

  [quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" 



I have a Yak-55 and am insured thru Tom Johnson's agency as he is quite 

familiar with the Yaks and own a Yak-50. Try TomJohnson(at)cox.net and see if 

he can help, his websi  te link  is below. My policy is in the $1500 range if 

memory serves. Last year it was $1700 with no time in type! If you've 

checked several insurance companies within a short period its quite likely 

you've been locked out of getting a better quote (unless you've used an 

artificial N number).



www.airpowerinsurance.com



Scott



----Original Message Follows----

From: Sarah Tobin 

Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Insurance

Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:43:30 -0800 (PST)



I sure did try them, tried them first and they wanted 3200 bucks. 

Apparently females are higher risk these days. This was all in the last 

month, so I don't know if they just went up, but you guys are making me 

think I am getting the big screw job here.



Smash



Scott Poehlmann wrote:

Did you try Falcon? I'm a CPL with about 1500 hours, but 0 in 

type   and  they only hit me for $2200 for my -55.



BTW, you'll LOVE the 55!



Scott

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L39parts(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: Insurance

I can give you some valuable advice here that comes  from the experience of a personal tragedy in my own  family:  Use a GAS oven.

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fish(at)aviation-tech.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: Insurance

Group,



Currently I see the two biggest obsticales to aviation as fuel and insurance

prices.



Why is it that with the power of AOPA/EAA that they have not started their own

insurance sections, that sell insurance to aircraft owners at a reasonable rates?

Are the foxes in the henhouse?



Fly Safe 

John Fischer

Yak-52, N213YA

PT-19A, Project

L-5E, Project

BT-13A, Project

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I can give you some valuable advice here that comes from the experience >of

a personal tragedy in my own family:  Use a GAS oven.
	


[quote]  ---

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