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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

JabiruUSA doesn't seem to have a source for the recommended smooth air elbow recommended from the airbox to the carby intake. Does anyone have a source? My local auto parts stores just looked at me when I told them I just wanted to look through their hose selections to find one. Seems if you can't tell them what car it goes on, you are out of luck …. It is 2 and one quarter inch inside diameter in a 90 degree elbow. This may or may not be the part they refer to as the Cobra Head. Obviously, one did not come with my FWF kit, just scat hose. Thanks ….
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

The hose geometry will depend on each airframe and FWF layout, of course, but FWIW, on my Murphy Rebel, with the std. mixer box mounted straight back of the engine and high, a Gates brand #20748 radiator hose fitting works well for turning the corner. The turn is a little wider than 90 deg., perhaps 105-110 deg. Another short piece of straight 2.25" hose completes the run up to a bottom exit from the mixer box.

A photo is at at http://n254mr.com/node/572 . There's a lot of stuff in the way in this photo, including Magnecor plug wires dangling about, but you can get the idea. It's an AeroCarb installation, but the Bing intake geometry would be much the same.

Ron
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JabiruUSA doesn't seem to have a source for the recommended smooth air elbow recommended from the airbox to the carby intake. Does anyone have a source? My local auto parts stores just looked at me when I told them I just wanted to look through their hose selections to find one. Seems if you can't tell them what car it goes on, you are out of luck …. It is 2 and one quarter inch inside diameter in a 90 degree elbow. This may or may not be the part they refer to as the Cobra Head. Obviously, one did not come with my FWF kit, just scat hose. Thanks ….
Jeff


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

Jeff

I placed mine right behind the engine and have a straight hose into it. I will be ordering my hose from this web site that has the hose you need.


http://vibrantperformance.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1022_1036&osCsid=83b8c2a0e6b04cdac7cc52e4a45c0749


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

This was the part number and price from intakehoses.com at the end of 2006. I got the part number from Lance Gingell’s build log:

90L225 Rubber Elbow 2.25" ID X 90 Degree   $9.49

-- Craig

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JabiruUSA doesn't seem to have a source for the recommended smooth air elbow recommended from the airbox to the carby intake. Does anyone have a source? My local auto parts stores just looked at me when I told them I just wanted to look through their hose selections to find one. Seems if you can't tell them what car it goes on, you are out of luck …. It is 2 and one quarter inch inside diameter in a 90 degree elbow. This may or may not be the part they refer to as the Cobra Head. Obviously, one did not come with my FWF kit, just scat hose. Thanks ….
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: Re: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

Jeff,

The Intakehoses.com 2.25" 90 degree bend hose is what I am using too. It is not as easy to install and remove as SCAT ducting, but it is working well. Picture attached.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

Thank you to everyone that replied. I ordered the elbow today.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

Craig:

It is still the same part number but the cost has escalated to $13.40. However, that is over $80 less than I paid for the Cobra head I received from Jab which was way too big to fit in the small space available.
Thanks for the info on intake hoses dot com. I was just about to google hoses when the hint showed up in my in-box. Will order one today.
Stan
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On Oct 21, 2008, at 22:24 , Craig Payne wrote:
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This was the part number and price from intakehoses.com at the end of 2006. I got the part number from Lance Gingell’s build log:

90L225 Rubber Elbow 2.25" ID X 90 Degree   $9.49

-- Craig

From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

I built my own "air straightener/divider." It was a lot of work, and
I can't say as it gave me any benefit...maybe, but I'm not positive.
Here's a picture. I started out with the curved fiberglas tube which
I built, laying fiberglas over a section of PVC plumbing. I used it
for awhile just as a curved tube, then later cut it along the
vertical axis and added the air straightening vanes, and reassembled.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 579.1hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again (17 hrs) after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire
ignition system
On Oct 22, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Stanley Challgren wrote:

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Craig:

It is still the same part number but the cost has escalated to
$13.40. However, that is over $80 less than I paid for the Cobra
head I received from Jab which was way too big to fit in the small
space available.

Thanks for the info on intake hoses dot com. I was just about to
google hoses when the hint showed up in my in-box. Will order one
today.

Stan
701/3300
On Oct 21, 2008, at 22:24 , Craig Payne wrote:

> This was the part number and price from intakehoses.com at the end
> of 2006. I got the part number from Lance Gingell’s build log:
>
> 90L225 Rubber Elbow 2.25" ID X 90
> Degree $9.49
>
> -- Craig
>
> From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-
> jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:02 PM
> To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Cobra Head/airbox connection to
> the carby
>
> intakehoses dot com
>
>

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

Hey Lynn, just curious.. With all the modifications you have made to your
engine, what changes did you make to the Jabiru serial number placard to
improve it??

Just kidding, I'm enjoying all the good ideas you share with us.

Thanks!

Rob

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Cobra Head/airbox connection to the carby Reply with quote

Oh, man, I never thought about that! Let's see....Jabiru 2200A dash
Super Ignitor dash Rocker Bushing Supreme...so maybe Jabiru
2200ASIRSB...something like that? : )

Or maybe you meant to the placard itself....maybe I could airfoil the
leading edge of it to help lift....that's it, I'm doin' it!

Lynn Matteson
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Jabiru 2200, 579.1hrs
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Hey Lynn, just curious.. With all the modifications you have made
to your engine, what changes did you make to the Jabiru serial
number placard to improve it??

Just kidding, I'm enjoying all the good ideas you share with us.

Thanks!

Rob

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