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drwer2

Joined: 24 Sep 2008
Posts: 41
Location: Squaw Valley, CA

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Commander-List:

Well some of these 'kids' say....Right-on-brother!

  

 (funny...I havent felt like a kid since '69) Maybe thats why I like this Post...feel like a kid again.

  

 wer



--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Jim Addington <jtaddington(at)verizon.net> wrote:



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		  From: Jim Addington <jtaddington(at)verizon.net>

Subject: Commander-List:

To: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington(at)verizon.net>

Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 7:29 AM



       

You young kids have all missed the boat, round engines are the best.

 

Jim Addington

 

 

 

 

 

Subject: Engines - Rotary vs. Turbine

 

 

 

Between A Radial Engine And A Jet Engine



Round engines are commonly known as Radial engines. The piston Jugs

are placed in a circle. Hence "Round" engines. Turbine engines are

known as Jet engines. We gotta get rid of those turbines, they're

ruining aviation and our hearing.



A turbine is too simple minded, it has no mystery. The air travels

through it in a straight line and doesn't pick up any of the pungent

fragrance of engine oil or pilot sweat. Anybody can start a turbine.

You just need to move a switch from "OFF" to "START" and then remember

to move it back to "ON" after a while. My PC is harder to  start.



Cranking a round engine requires skill, finesse and style. You have to

seduce it into starting. It's like waking up a mistress On some

planes, the pilots aren't even allowed to do it. Turbines start by

whining for a while, then give a lady-like poof and start whining a

little louder.



Round engines give a satisfying rattle-rattle, click-click, BANG, more

rattles, another BANG, a big macho FART or two, more clicks, a lot

more smoke and finally a serious low pitched roar. We like that. It's

a GUY thing.



When you start a round engine, your mind is engaged and you can

concentrate on the flight ahead. Starting turbine is like flicking on

aceiling fan:

Useful, but, hardly exciting.



When you have started his round engine successfully your Crew Chief

looks up at you like he'd let you kiss his girl, too! Turbines don't

break or catch fire often enough, which leads to aircrew boredom,

complacency and inattention. A round engine at speed looks and sounds

like it's going to blow any minute. This helps concentrate the mind.



Turbines don't have enough control levers or gauges to keep a pilot's

attention. There's nothing to fiddle with during long flights.

Turbines smell like a Boy Scout camp full of Coleman Lamps. Round

engines smell like God intended machines to smell.



Pass this on to an old WWII guy (or his son, or anyone who ever flew

them) in remembrance of the "Greatest Generation".

 

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drwer2

Joined: 24 Sep 2008
Posts: 41
Location: Squaw Valley, CA

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: Commander-List:

Moderator:

  

 Has anyone else been getting Election SPAM via the Commander-list?  Is there anything the 'list' can to do stop it?

  

  

  

 wer



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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: Commander-List:

I had none, Will.



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of willis  robison

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:20 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re:  Commander-List:

 

                   Moderator:

        

       Has anyone else been getting Election SPAM via the        Commander-list?  Is there anything the 'list' can to do stop  it?

        

        

        

       wer



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jtaddington(at)verizon.ne
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: Commander-List:

I have not and glad, besides I have already voted.  

Jim Addington  

         

  

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of willis robison

 Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:20 AM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Commander-List:  

  

              

Moderator:   

      

    

      

Has anyone else been getting Election SPAM via the   Commander-list?  Is there anything the 'list' can to do stop it?   

      

    

      

    

      

    

      

wer   

        

   

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tfisher(at)commandergroup
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: Commander-List:

I have not gotten any but I did receive a lot of "unable  to deliver" spam messages.

 Tom.

 C-GISS

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drwer2

Joined: 24 Sep 2008
Posts: 41
Location: Squaw Valley, CA

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: Commander-List:

Thanks...It appears to be a personal email sent from a list member....

  

 they're now on the spam list.

  

 wer



--- On Thu, 10/30/08, nico css <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com> wrote:



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		  From: nico css <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com>

Subject: RE: Commander-List:

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 9:33 AM



  I had none, Will.



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of willis robison

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:20 AM

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Commander-List:

 

     Moderator:

  

 Has anyone else been getting Election SPAM via the Commander-list?  Is there anything the 'list' can to do stop it?

  

  

  

 wer



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andrew.bridget(at)telus.n
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: Commander-List:

Hi Wilis, I've not been getting anything either.  But often what happens is spammers use somebody else's e-mail address (sounds  like in this case the Matronics address) - I know this because my Josh Stafford  Books e-mail address has been used by spammers. I have had a number of  flame-mail replies to my website saying they hate me for sending out spam, will  never buy my books, etc. Most unfortunate.

 Regards, Andrew

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drwer2

Joined: 24 Sep 2008
Posts: 41
Location: Squaw Valley, CA

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: Commander-List:

Gosh, I hope that's the case.  My 'spammer" in this cas, is a frequent contributor and otherwise has been very helpful with things Commander related.



  

 I didnt know you could hijack someones email like that.  We'll, Ill be more careful from now on.

  

 thanks.

  

 wer

--- On Thu, 10/30/08, andrew.bridget(at)telus.net <andrew.bridget(at)telus.net> wrote:



 [quote]From: andrew.bridget(at)telus.net <andrew.bridget(at)telus.net>

Subject: Re: Commander-List:

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 10:47 AM



    Hi Wilis, I've not been getting anything either. But often what happens is spammers use somebody else's e-mail address (sounds like in this case the Matronics address) - I know this because my Josh Stafford Books e-mail address has been used by spammers. I have had a number of flame-mail replies to my website saying they hate me for sending out spam, will never buy my books, etc. Most unfortunate.

 Regards, Andrew

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dongirod

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 140

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: Commander-List:

[quote]                              

          

         "Has anyone else been getting Election SPAM via the          Commander-list?  Is there anything the 'list' can to do stop          it"

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		    I thought that is why my computer has a "delete" button!Don 	
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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: Commander-List:

Indeed, there is a delete button. But sometimes it can be  so overwhelming, not to mention the scare it puts into a list operator when that  happens (where else did they get into?), that it is a real and expensive pest.  

  

 I live and die by my emails and receive about 300 emails a  day. A couple of years ago I hosted my own email servers and my daily email  receipt rate ran in the thousands of about 80% being spam, ugly and less ugly.  Eventually I gave up and had my servers moved to a hosted application with spam  filtering and staff that does nothing else but keep it up to date, which brought  the rate down into the low hundreds; cutting the incidences of spam down to  about 10% that still slip past the filters. I could never answer the question of  how many legitimate emails are being filtered out that I will never receive; and  how many opportunities and business mail were lost. I would never know. To  minimize the impact of a spam filter, I style the content of my emails not to  contain buzz words that would alarm the spam filter. And if I need information  from a vendor or contractor that would of necessity have words similar to those  found in spam in it, I have it faxed to me. 

  

 We're only trying to avoid the robbers that lurk in the  bushes as we go about our business, that's the game. 

  

 Nico

 

 

   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  Don

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:10 PM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re:  Commander-List:

 

  

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         "Has anyone else been getting Election SPAM via the          Commander-list?  Is there anything the 'list' can to do stop          it"

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href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c

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dongirod

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 140

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: Commander-List:

Nico;

  

 I don't think a political spam is "robbers that  lurk in the bushes" and as wer said he did, just put the sender in the blocked  email list.

  

 I agree, it does not belong on the list, which  as I understand it, it is not on the list, but I don't make a big deal out of  it.

  

 Don

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drwer2

Joined: 24 Sep 2008
Posts: 41
Location: Squaw Valley, CA

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: Commander-List:

Nico is just referring to spam filters in general.  There is a tremendous amount of work done behind the scenes of a web-page or chat portal.  Filters are just an annoying fact of life.

  

 Do I smell SPAM burning?....

 ----------------------------------------------------------

 Now for something completely different.

  

 Do I need an Original POH onboard or can one of the 'reprints" offered on the internet do the job?  Any recommendations?

  

 thanks.

  

 Willis.

 



--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Don <dongirod(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:



 [quote]From: Don <dongirod(at)bellsouth.net>

Subject: Re: Commander-List:

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 1:12 PM



    Nico;

  

 I don't think a political spam is "robbers that lurk in the bushes" and as wer said he did, just put the sender in the blocked email list.

  

 I agree, it does not belong on the list, which as I understand it, it is not on the list, but I don't make a big deal out of it.

  

 Don

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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: Commander-List:

Good Afternoon Willis,

  

 My read would be that you need whatever is listed in the Type Certificate  Data Sheet. 

  

 If you don't have access to the TCDS, your IA should have the information.  While I am certainly no expert on such things, if you will send me data  concerning your aircraft such as the model number and serial number, I will see  if I can find the required information.

  

 Happy  Skies



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West 86th  Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22   

  In a message dated 10/30/2008 3:49:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  drwer2(at)yahoo.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		                               Nico is just referring to spam filters in general.  There          is a tremendous amount of work done behind the scenes of a web-page          or chat portal.  Filters are just an annoying fact of life.

          

         Do I smell SPAM burning?....

         ----------------------------------------------------------

         Now for something completely different.

          

         Do I need an Original POH onboard or can one of the 'reprints"          offered on the internet do the job?  Any recommendations?

          

         thanks.

          

         Willis.

	




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dongirod

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 140

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: Commander-List:

[quote]                              

          

         "Do I smell SPAM burning?...."

          

         Not from me!

          

         To answer your question indirectly.  I          believe you can still purchase POH.  I have both my original          and a "new one" give to me by a friend.

          

         Don 

         



 



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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: Commander-List:

JB-  

   

What was that 985 hanging on?  

   

I’ve got a 1340 on the SNJ…  I’d go look at foliage this weekend, but we’re expecting a bit of a blower and the sage brush just turns from brownish green to brownish brown out here.  :-p  

   

Robert S. Randazzo  

N414C  

     

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg(at)aol.com

 Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:11 AM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject:  Re: Commander-List:  

  

   

GREAT STUFF.  I flew my P&W, R-985 last night looking at the fall foliage, the start procedures is just like that!!!  I could ad that even the shut down is cool.  Hold the brakes, don't point the prop blast at anything important.  Advance the throttle to about 1500RPM and slowly move the mix to idle cut off.  Then as the engine winds down, close the throttle.  This scavenges oil out of the sump, back to the tank after the taxi.  Not a bad idea in a Commander with geared engine ether, they are "dry sump" just like a radial.  jb

 

 

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BertBerry1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:35 am Post subject: Commander-List:

Subject: Engines - Rotary vs. TurbineGREAT STORY!!!

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From:  "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo(at)precisionmanuals.com>

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:10:38 -0700

To: <commander-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE:  Re: Commander-List:

  

JB- 

  

What was that 985 hanging on? 

  

I’ve got a 1340 on the SNJ…  I’d go look at foliage this weekend, but we’re expecting a bit of a blower and the sage brush just turns from brownish green to brownish brown out here.  :-p 

  

Robert S. Randazzo 

N414C 

   

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg(at)aol.com

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:11 AM

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject:  Re: Commander-List: 

 

  

GREAT STUFF.  I flew my P&W, R-985 last night looking at the fall foliage, the start procedures is just like that!!!  I could ad that even the shut down is cool.  Hold the brakes, don't point the prop blast at anything important.  Advance the throttle to about 1500RPM and slowly move the mix to idle cut off.  Then as the engine winds down, close the throttle.  This scavenges oil out of the sump, back to the tank after the taxi.  Not a bad idea in a Commander with geared engine ether, they are "dry sump" just like a radial.  jb

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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: Commander-List:

It is on a "homebuilt" Grumman Ag-Cat.  It is now a three place, open cockpit bi-plane, usually on floats but currently back on wheels.  I love the 1340,  flew Ag for 15 years and have many thousands of hours behind a 1340, geared 1340 and the 985.  jb

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amg3636(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: Commander-List:

Can you sell rides in the AG CAT ?? I assume it is in experimental catagory. I'm fighting with myself about going experimental with my 450 Stearman or going to the

  

  expense of  standard catagory. I would like a wide seat in the front also. Of course my 500 Commander is my favorite go somewhere airplane.

  

 Roland Gilliam

 

 

   

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Subject: Re: Commander-List:

Date: Fri C 31 Oct 2008 12:05:06 -0400

From: yourtcfg(at)aol.com



It is on a "homebuilt" Grumman Ag-Cat.  It is now a three place C open cockpit bi-plane C usually on floats but currently back on wheels.  I love the 1340 C  flew Ag for 15 years and have many thousands of hours behind a 1340 C geared 1340 and the 985.  jb



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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: Commander-List:

Call me, 360-903-6901.  jb

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