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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: gear box insp. |
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Good morning guys,
Does anyone know the requirements for the 912 gear box inspection at 600 hrs. ? Someone told us it requires going to a Rotax repair center and costs around 6 or $ 800 ?, and that an A&P can’t do it ?
Bob Griffin
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rampil
Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 870
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:06 am Post subject: Re: gear box insp. |
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If you have an experimental airworthiness cert, you or anyone
can do the gearbox inspection. It does require some tooling, a press,
and it would be unwise to perform without taking one of the rotax
courses in which the technique is taught. I recommend Dean's
course at Sebring (aerotechnicalinstitute.com)
As for price for sending the work out, call your local authorized
Rotax repair center. Don't ask here, it varies around the country.
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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 1149 Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: gear box insp. |
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Wow, I wonder about "anyone" can do the inspection.
John Cox
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Roger Lee
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 1464 Location: Tucson, Az.
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: gear box insp. |
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The 600 hr is not the gearbox inspection, but the overload clutch. You can not do this yourself and will only bend your engine mounts. You will need bracing for the engine, a special 5' tool and lever. I hate to say this in writing, but you may want to forgo this if you have no one in your area to do this check, or fly your plane to a distributor, but ask them first if they can handle this inspection..
If you are using 91 octane then you don't need to do this inspection at this time.
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: gear box insp. |
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Hi Bob,
I seem to recall when mine came due I sent it to Lockwood. They turned it around in less than a week and I think it was less than a couple of hundred dollars.
Regards, Paul
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Subject: gear box insp.
Good morning guys,
Does anyone know the requirements for the 912 gear box inspection at 600 hrs. ? Someone told us it requires going to a Rotax repair center and costs around 6 or $ 800 ?, and that an A&P canąt do it ?
Bob Griffin
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Thom Riddle
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: Re: gear box insp. |
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Bob,
I do periodic gearbox inspections. Just did one a couple weeks ago and it needed new springs, otherwise it was in great shape. If you ship me the gearbox and pay for return shipping I will do your inspection for $100 plus parts. If it needs springs they are about $20 each. The gearbox with clutch uses three and the one without uses two. If the springs are within new specs, you don't need to change them, which is probably the case if you've been running mostly mogas.
If you want to fly your airplane here, we can turn it around in 1/2 day if no parts are needed but we charge for gearbox removal and installastion too. Since I am a certified power plant mechanic I can do the work on an SLSA.
Or you can send it to Lockwood. They will change the springs whether needed or not.
http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix
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Roger Lee
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: Re: gear box insp. |
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Hi Thom,
Do you guys do overload clutch test/inspection?
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Thom Riddle
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 1597 Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:30 am Post subject: Re: gear box insp. |
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Roger,
We've not done one yet but I understand the process and am confident that we can set up an engine brace/support jig for doing so. I spent most of my engineering career doing machine design so this should be pretty straight forward. Since each airplane type is a little different, it will require a slightly different setup for each airplane type.
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rampil
Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 870
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: gear box insp. |
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Re Gearbox inspection:
Hi Roger,
I dunno, but when I took Dean's Maintenance course at SnF 2006,
we took a gearbox apart with a bench press and couple of doodads
which I am too far away to look up at the moment. We inspected the
dogs, gears and seals. I don't remember a slipper in the box we
cracked open, but then my engine doesn't have one anyway
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Roger Lee
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: gear box insp. |
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Hi Rampil,
We may be talking two different inspections. One is the overload clutch in the engine and the other is the gear box. Two different critters. The gear box one is easy. The overload clutch test can bend and tweak engine frames. Your talking about the gear box and the other one mentioned above is the overload clutch at 600 hours. The gear box is 800 hours with 100LL.
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