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Iberplanes
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Location: Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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 Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: Zenair Europe's comments on the Dutch accident and groundin |
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guys,
how do you know that the Dutch is on vacation? Quite extrange because the season is over and I´m affected by this "bureacrat"
THX
2008/11/3 Gig Giacona <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com (wrgiacona(at)gmail.com)>
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And what action is Zenith being forced to take that they weren't already taking? The Dutch bureaucrat that grounded the plane in Holland (and because of EU regulations other countries) is off on vacation.
The directive from Zenith Europe was to fly in the envelope and check tension on the cables. I knew I needed to do that before I bought the plans.
ter_turn(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Gentleman, I know emotions get ramped up on this subject, but frankly I'm glad
> some kind of action is being forced on Zenith. It's easy for them to make a few cosmetic changes to a design and change names, but we 601 XL builders are the
> ones taking it up the butt financially on this deal and possibly risking said butt when flying this airplane. Bring on the flames!
>
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www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
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Gig Giacona
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Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Zenair Europe's comments on the Dutch accident and groun |
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From here http://www.zenairulm.com/News/index_files/Page349.htm
"On Saturday October 25, Zenair Sarl was informed by a Dutch Zodiac XL owner that the Dutch CAA had issued an emergency Airworthiness Directive the previous day, calling for the immediate grounding of all Zodiac XL in the Netherlands, effective immediately.
This came as a complete surprise to Zenair Europe, Zenair Ltd and Zenith Aircraft Co. as none of us had been previously contacted by the Dutch authorities. We were further surprised that the basis for the NL-CAA action was a preliminary accident report that offers no new findings regarding the Zodiac XL design. Rather it makes allusion to various other accidents and suggests that the “calculated strength†of the design is “probably too optimisticâ€.
Zenair is eager to discuss the basis for these statements with the Dutch CAA and is keenly awaiting the return of CAA staff from their seasonal holiday...."
| Iberplanes wrote: | guys,
how do you know that the Dutch is on vacation? Quite extrange because the season is over and I�m affected by this "bureacrat"
THX
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Iberplanes
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: Zenair Europe's comments on the Dutch accident and groundin |
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Wow!! amazing and incredible.
THX
2008/11/3 Gig Giacona <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com (wrgiacona(at)gmail.com)>
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>From here http://www.zenairulm.com/News/index_files/Page349.htm
"On Saturday October 25, Zenair Sarl was informed by a Dutch Zodiac XL owner that the Dutch CAA had issued an emergency Airworthiness Directive the previous day, calling for the immediate grounding of all Zodiac XL in the Netherlands, effective immediately.
This came as a complete surprise to Zenair Europe, Zenair Ltd and Zenith Aircraft Co. as none of us had been previously contacted by the Dutch authorities. We were further surprised that the basis for the NL-CAA action was a preliminary accident report that offers no new findings regarding the Zodiac XL design. Rather it makes allusion to various other accidents and suggests that the “calculated strength†of the design is “probably too optimistic†.
Zenair is eager to discuss the basis for these statements with the Dutch CAA and is keenly awaiting the return of CAA staff from their seasonal holiday...."
Iberplanes wrote:
> guys,
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> how do you know that the Dutch is on vacation? Quite extrange because the season is over and I�m affected by this "bureacrat"
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> THX
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212132#212132
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br> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List
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Alberto Martin
www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
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Gig Giacona
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Zenair Europe's comments on the Dutch accident and groun |
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| Iberplanes wrote: | Wow!! amazing and incredible.
THX
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Yep, and it kind of pissed me off when I read it. Hence, my comment about European governments.
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