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richard.goode(at)russiana
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: 52

Dennis-like you I sell 52s.But it really is  misleading to say that a 52 is simple and forgiving,since in some spins it  certainly is not!

 A 52 WILL allways recover from a spin,BUT it  really does need good instruction for a pilot to be sure of recovery from a  developed flat spin,and it is not that unusual for this to occur from a  mis-handled stall-turn.

 The 52 is a great plane and an excellent  aerobatic one at that.But it is only safe in aerobatics IF the pilot has had  correct instruction from someone who really knows the type.

 I have seen the consequences when this  training has not been done.

 Richard

  

 Richard Goode Aerobatics

Rhodds  Farm

Lyonshall

Hereford

HR5 3LW

United Kingdom

  

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dsavarese0812(at)bellsout
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: 52

Richard,

 I don't believe at anytime I said that it  was simple and forgiving because I too do NOT believe it is "simple  and forgiving" in certain spin situations.   We are clearly on the  same page and I echo your insight.  Once again, proper training is  paramount.  

  

 Dennis

  

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bwade154(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: 52

Guys I earlier wrote that the flat spin is the one maneuver that will ruin your whole day without proper instruction and altitude and that still stands! In all fairness to the guys selling these aircraft what I should have added is that I've been flying the Yak 52 for 10 years now. My prior flying experience was 1,300hrs flying straight and level in a 172. After a year of getting familiar with the Yak I started flying acro and of all the maneuvers I've screwed up (and I screw up a lot) especially the hammer head NEVER has the airplane shown any bad flight characteristics or gone more than 1/4 turn before normal recovery. Possibly what I should have said is that until you have proper training in flat spin recovery in the 52 you have no idea how little to no control you have over the  aircraft and as the instructor is doing all the right things to save the bacon your saying to yourself would I have done that for soooo long? 

  

 This has been my experience 

 Bill Wade 

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   From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>

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Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 7:54:37 AM

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   Richard,

 I don't believe at anytime I said that it was simple and forgiving because I too do NOT believe it is "simple and forgiving" in certain spin situations.   We are clearly on the same page and I echo your insight.  Once again, proper training is paramount.  

  

 Dennis

  

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