mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: OFF TOPIC: Missing Man Formation |
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Well, let's see.
Doc Kemp, Tim Gagnon, and myself are three of the either active or
formally active and now retired (that means 20 or more years served Bill
and in my case 38 years of DOD service) who feel that the Missing Man
Formation flight is something that was invented by the military to
essentially honor other military airmen who died while IN those very
same aircraft in service to their country. I have a list of other
people NOT on the YAK List who also sent me email agreeing that Missing
Man Formations, like certain other military honors should be reserved
for the military and not copied by civilians to honor other civilians
who happen to fly Cessna 150's, or even 747's, or in some cases were not
even a pilot at all. THAT list includes one former 3 star General, one
Bird Colonel, and every Commanding Officer and aircrew present here at
Cherry Point that I bothered to ask.
So you will not misquote me.... Again..... Every one of them, including
myself, never said that you, or anyone else should be PROHIBITED from
doing what you want to do, including Missing Man Formations! Every one
of them, including myself, felt that every one of you who feel
otherwise, should be allowed to fly any kind of formation flight that
you want to.
No one ever said you should be grounded, shot, whipped, flayed, or
neutered. No one ever said one bad thing about you or anyone else who
did not share our viewpoint. What they said was: "We feel such a flight
is disrespectful to service members and our traditions". The reason
they feel that way Bill..and everyone else......is because even though a
lot of us were active duty military AND aircrew, when we die we do not
rate a Missing Man Formation flight by the military and therefore do not
want one by anyone else since basically it would be disrespectful of
those that DID die in aircraft in service and/or defense of their
country. That is OUR way of seeing it Bill. That is the MILITARY'S way
of seeing it Bill, and that aspect is simply not open for debate.
But I concur: It is not YOUR way of seeing it and a lot of other people
agree with you! So OK! FINE! NO PROBLEM! DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO!
NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU! NO ONE EVEN WANTS TO, let alone try to.
But please, none of you has the right to imply that those of us who feel
as we do are wrong-headed, misguided, or are otherwise incorrect. We
respect your point of view. Try giving us the same courtesy. Or is
that just too hard to do?
That said: There is another list of complainers. Those are the people
that complained to the LIST OWNER MATT Dralle for our CONTINUED debate
about this topic. The impression I got from Matt's message was that he
preferred for us to stop debating this issue, and he specifically
mentioned that he had received numerous complaints about it. If you
want a copy of THAT list, please sent a message to Matt, and I am sure
he would be happy to talk to you about it. His address is:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> Give him a shout.
Now are we DONE, or do you have to go into this whole mess SOME MORE?
Jesus... Enough already! Let's get back to fixing airplanes. Your
input to that subject being ??????
M. Bitterlich
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