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Bill1200

Joined: 19 Oct 2008
Posts: 111
Location: medford oregon

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: YAK Cross country underway

Well things were going pretty good. Got out of Vermont in brutal cold. Beat the fronts down through Pennsylvania,West Virginia. Now I'm stuck in Russelville Arkansas. Wouldn't start this morning(think I probably flooded it) Used spare air. Now I'm screwed. Nothing open on Sunday of course. Monday will try to get some help from a welding supply place here in town. I don't have the large cylinder adapter so hopefully they can rig something up. It's been an adventure all right. Still have 2 days to get to California. No pics yet,too damn busy trying to stay warm

cjpilot710(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: YAK Cross country underway

In a message dated 11/23/2008 3:34:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  billdykes52(at)gmail.com writes:

  

 Bill1200

  

  

 I assume you are talking about running out of air trying to start a  Yak.  Be careful NOT to put PURE oxygen in you aircraft system.   It will cause a very bad explosion during a start!  You want ordinary  air or nitrogen in you system.  When you talk about going to "welding  shop" that scare me.  

  

 Jim "Pappy" Goolsby 

  

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Well things were going pretty good. Got    out of Vermont in brutal cold. Beat the fronts down through Pennsylvania,West    Virginia. Now I'm stuck in Russelville Arkansas. Wouldn't start this    morning(think I probably flooded it) Used spare air. Now I'm screwed. Nothing    open on Sunday of course. Monday will try to get some help from a welding    supply place here in town. I don't have the large cylinder adapter so    hopefully they can rig something up. It's been an adventure all right. Still    have 2 days to get to California. No pics yet,too damn busy trying to stay    warm 





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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: YAK Cross country underway

Bill - try the local Fire Dept. - they usually have the equipment on  hand as they regularly charge their breathing tanks.  A contribution  to their Christmas party fund may help...

  

  In a message dated 11/23/2008 6:07:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  cjpilot710(at)aol.com writes:

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		        In a message dated 11/23/2008 3:34:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,    billdykes52(at)gmail.com writes:

    

   Bill1200

    

    

   I assume you are talking about running out of air trying to start a    Yak.  Be careful NOT to put PURE oxygen in you aircraft    system.  It will cause a very bad explosion during a    start!  You want ordinary air or nitrogen in you system.  When    you talk about going to "welding shop" that scare    me.  

    

   Jim "Pappy" Goolsby 

    

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Well things were going pretty good. Got      out of Vermont in brutal cold. Beat the fronts down through      Pennsylvania,West Virginia. Now I'm stuck in Russelville Arkansas. Wouldn't      start this morning(think I probably flooded it) Used spare air. Now I'm      screwed. Nothing open on Sunday of course. Monday will try to get some help      from a welding supply place here in town. I don't have the large cylinder      adapter so hopefully they can rig something up. It's been an adventure all      right. Still have 2 days to get to California. No pics yet,too damn busy      trying to stay warm 





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Bill1200

Joined: 19 Oct 2008
Posts: 111
Location: medford oregon

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: Re: YAK Cross country underway

Yep, fully understand the no oxygen thing. The fire dept is a GREAT idea, thanks!!!!!

mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: YAK Cross country underway

Besides the other good suggestions about not putting anything in the

tanks except compressed air or nitrogen, you also might want to consider

propping the engine.  It is not any more dangerous than propping any

other aircraft, so if you can not do it yourself, you can maybe get

someone else to help you. In any case, it takes two people.  Yes, it is

indeed possible to do it with just one person, but the danger level

increases proportionately and the procedure is different.  



The very most important thing to remember here is that with no air, you

also have no brakes.  That means the aircraft must.....REPEAT.... MUST

be tied down.  I would recommend a 3 point tie-down AND three sets of

chocks. One man is in the aircraft, that should probably be yourself. 



Pull the prop through a lot before getting ready to start.  20 blades is

not too much in cold weather. It sure would be nice if you could

pre-heat it!    



Open the air tank valve and hit the starter button enough times to get

all... I mean ALL of the air out of the system.  Or, use your flaps

going up and down to bleed the air out.  Just make sure it is totally

out of air.  TOTALLY.  



Prime the engine... In dead cold weather as in REAL cold, 10 shots of

prime is NOT too much.  Leave the prime handle pulled all the way OUT,

ready to SHOVE IN if the engine catches and then starts to die.  With

the mags OFF, carefully pull the prop through at least another 5-8

blades.  Remember that with the prime lever turned to engine prime, that

alone causes the mixture to be more rich than normal.  



Set up everything for a normal start.  



When the man outside gets ready to spin the prop by hand, push in the

starter button and you should hear a BUZZ from the boost transformer.

If the engine catches and starts, do the normal flip of the mags to both

on, and be ready to add more prime.  At the same time, you CAN also pump

the throttle a LITTLE... But much better to just use the prime.  Note:

It is much easier to get a fire with a lot of throttle movement and a

backfire. 



Usually most airports will have someone who is experienced about

propping engines... You just have to let them know that yours turns the

"other way".  It will start easier than a lot of other opposed engines

because of the low compression ratio.  



Mark  Bitterlich

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FLYBOY886(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: YAK Cross country underway

Bill, I had the same problem traveling in my 52 and got stuck on a Sunday.  I called a truck tire emergency repair outfit and they had tanks of high  pressure Nitrogen. We went to the local auto parts store for some adaptive  fittings and I was back in business. Hope this helps.

  

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Well things were going pretty good. Got    out of Vermont in brutal cold. Beat the fronts down through Pennsylvania,West    Virginia. Now I'm stuck in Russelville Arkansas. Wouldn't start this    morning(think I probably flooded it) Used spare air. Now I'm screwed. Nothing    open on Sunday of course. Monday will try to get some help from a welding    supply place here in town. I don't have the large cylinder adapter so    hopefully they can rig something up. It's been an adventure all right. Still    have 2 days to get to California. No pics yet,too damn busy trying to stay    warm 





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Bill1200

Joined: 19 Oct 2008
Posts: 111
Location: medford oregon

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: YAK Cross country underway

Thanks to all for the tips. Found a scuba shop in Little Rock. Filled my bottle and rented 2 scuba tanks just in case. Started on the first try so I don't know what I did wrong Sunday. Anyways I'm in New Mexico. Gonna go have a beer and some good food. Those dry counties back east are the pits. Last leg tomorrow

Bill1200

Joined: 19 Oct 2008
Posts: 111
Location: medford oregon

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: Re: YAK Cross country underway

Made it home in one piece. Not the best plane for night flying, IFR training really kicked in a couple of times. Now its time for some fun.

yak-52@comcast.net

Joined: 17 Aug 2008
Posts: 9

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: Re: YAK Cross country underway

How many legs did this trip require?

Bill1200

Joined: 19 Oct 2008
Posts: 111
Location: medford oregon

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: YAK Cross country underway

Lost count   of the stops, took 5 days.  Here she is at her new home

barryhancock

Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Posts: 285

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: Re: YAK Cross country underway

Congrats on the successful cross country.  Make sure to come down for All Red Star next May!



Cheers,



Barry

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