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 Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: Poly Tone paint |
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Kolb people,
I have an expertise question for someone who knows their stuff about applying
Poly Tone paint.
For me, at the present time, it will be difficult to spray my Poly Tone paint.
Too lengthy to go into, but it just would. I CAN spray, but I'd have to do it outside.
My question is: Is it possible to brush on Poly Tone paint (with a very high
quality brush), and it turn out with very good results.
Is there anyone out there that brushed on their paint, and were pleased with
the results? Or, should I just forget that idea, and plan on spraying it on?
Mike Welch
MkIII
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: Poly Tone paint |
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Mike, I doubt you would be happy with the result. I would buy a HVLP
system. Combined with a couple of
portable exhaust fans and a good mask you should be alright.
These systems are now available at a reasonable price from sources
like harbor freight.
If I were not near the end of my project career I would get one myself.
BB
On 14, Dec 2008, at 6:45 PM, Mike Welch wrote:
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Kolb people,
I have an expertise question for someone who knows their stuff
about applying
Poly Tone paint.
For me, at the present time, it will be difficult to spray my
Poly Tone paint.
Too lengthy to go into, but it just would. I CAN spray, but I'd
have to do it outside.
My question is: Is it possible to brush on Poly Tone paint (with
a very high
quality brush), and it turn out with very good results.
Is there anyone out there that brushed on their paint, and were
pleased with
the results? Or, should I just forget that idea, and plan on
spraying it on?
Mike Welch
MkIII
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mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: Poly Tone paint |
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| Quote: | Mike, I doubt you would be happy with the result. I would buy a HVLP
system. Combined with a couple of
portable exhaust fans and a good mask you should be alright.
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for the reply. I already have a HVLP system, and a very good mask.
I used these to spray the horiz stabs, and elevators. This paint job was done
at my last shop. When I finished spraying, I could close the door...and walk
out.
My problem at the moment is I am living in my new shop (in an apartment at the back).
The entire shop, including the apartment, has a central heating/air conditioning
system. In other words....our apartment space breathes shop vapors. Boo!!!
Like I said, if no one thinks you can do a good job brushing it on, then I won't
give it another thought. I'll pull out my HVLP, and do it right. I was just curious
if anyone did brush it, and was happy with the results.
Thanks,
Mike Welch
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: Poly Tone paint |
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Not a chance Mike...The poly tone would melt the poly spray -poly
brush and make a mess...Herb
its the acetone and mek....
At 06:24 PM 12/14/2008, you wrote:
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> Mike, I doubt you would be happy with the result. I would buy a HVLP
> system. Combined with a couple of
> portable exhaust fans and a good mask you should be alright.
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the reply. I already have a HVLP system, and a very good mask.
I used these to spray the horiz stabs, and elevators. This paint job was done
at my last shop. When I finished spraying, I could close the door...and walk
out.
My problem at the moment is I am living in my new shop (in an
apartment at the back).
The entire shop, including the apartment, has a central heating/air
conditioning
system. In other words....our apartment space breathes shop vapors. Boo!!!
Like I said, if no one thinks you can do a good job brushing it
on, then I won't
give it another thought. I'll pull out my HVLP, and do it right. I
was just curious
if anyone did brush it, and was happy with the results.
Thanks,
Mike Welch
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: Poly Tone paint |
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| Quote: | Not a chance Mike...The poly tone would melt the poly spray -poly
brush and make a mess...Herb
its the acetone and mek....
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Yup!! I think you pegged it, Herb. I hadn't considered that. That's
all I needed to know. Thanks
Mike Welch
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John Hauck
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: Poly Tone paint |
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| Quote: | Yup!! I think you pegged it, Herb. I hadn't considered that. That's
all I needed to know. Thanks
Mike Welch
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I've seen a few cars and tractors painted with a brush, but would not be too
proud of any of them.
john h - None of these were painted with a brush. 
mkIII - 1993 OSH Grand Champion Light Plane
1993 Sun and Fun Reserve Grand Champion Light Plane
Firestar - 1989 OSH Grand Champion Ultralight
1988 Sun and Fun Grand Champion Ultralight
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: Poly Tone paint |
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| Quote: | john h - None of these were painted with a brush.
mkIII - 1993 OSH Grand Champion Light Plane
1993 Sun and Fun Reserve Grand Champion Light Plane
Firestar - 1989 OSH Grand Champion Ultralight
1988 Sun and Fun Grand Champion Ultralight
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John H.,
I was curious if it was possible to do a nice paint job with a brush.
Evidently not! I won't do anything but a professional looking job!!
However, my friend Myron, (you met him last spring at Monument Valley)
"TOLD" me he painted his entire plane with a brush Using Poly Tone Paint.
And it looks DAMN nice!!! But, the fact is, I don't think he was entirely
truthful. The airport regulations forbid ANY spraying of paint products.
He may have told me he used a brush, so that I would think he was obeying
the law in his hangar.
My curiosity was if this scenario was possible. I would say "not likely."
I am not in contact with him any longer.
Mike Welch
PS. I bought a car once that was painted with a brush, or a roller. 1961 Falcon.
They used kitchen latex paint. It had about 30 lbs.of Bondo to cover the rust,
spread by hand. It was a junker while I lived in Okinawa for a couple years 1971-1973.
Ran like a champ, tho!!
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: Poly Tone paint |
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Mike Welch asked: << Is it possible to brush on Poly Tone paint (with a very high
quality brush) >>
Hi, Mike –
I applied the Poly Tone trim colors on my Mark-III using a roller brush, with excellent results.
What I discovered after a few tries was, when you first roll on the paint, tiny bubbles form on the surface.
But those get smoothed out with the subsequent passes of the roller.
The trick is to get the timing right on the last pass of the paint roller: if it’s too SOON, the little bubbles keep forming, and if it dries this way, you’ll see all the tiny circles. If it’s too LATE (too dry), the roller will leave a textured finish in the paint, like orange peel. If your last roller pass is timed JUST RIGHT, the bubbles are eliminated and the paint settles out perfectly smooth. But you gotta discover the “right” timing all on your own – it’ll depend on your temperature and humidity.
But the short answer is, “yes,” you CAN get an acceptably smooth and attractive Poly-Tone finish using a roller.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, 912ul, “Magic Bike”
Cedar Crest, NM
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