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hgmckay

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 397

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

Why can I not find an authorized Rotax engine technician listed any where in the US? I went to the Rotax-owners.com site and clicked on the tab for support, and under that tab is a list of items, one of which is “find a technician”. When you follow that trail I cannot find a technician listed in any of the US states. Why is this? Certainly there must be some Rotax engine authorized technicians in the US!!  

Have I just made a mistake or am I correct in my finding?  

   

Hugh McKay  

Rotax 912 UL  

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arno7452(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

Hugh,

 Are you aware of Lockwood near Lakeland, FL?   They are distributor and seller of Rotax.

 Ken Arnold

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hgmckay

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 397

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

Ken:  

   

Yes, I am aware of them and their services. What I am asking is, does Lockwood have the only qualified Rotax technicians in the US?  

   

Hugh  

         

  

From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arnold

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Hugh,  

    

Are you aware of Lockwood near Lakeland, FL?  They are distributor and seller of Rotax.  

    

Ken Arnold  

    

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Arty Trost

Joined: 25 May 2006
Posts: 205
Location: Sandy, Oregon

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

There certainly ARE authorized Rotax engine technicians throughout the U.S. I believe LEAF is one, as well as Lockwood. Clyde Poser of Rainier Ultralight (in Washington - state, not D.C.) is another.  Also check with Rainbow Aviation in Corning, Calif.If they're not (and I believe they are) they will certainly know of other authorized Rotax engine technicians.



Arty Trost

Rotax 503

Sandy, Oregon



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arno7452(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

Hugh,

 We have a Rotax tech here in Goldsboro.   However, he is only qualified to remove and install external parts.  He  cannot open the case.  As I understand, he can balance carbs and  such.  I have used him a little but nothing very complex.

  

 Good luck,

 Ken

  

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JOE RONCO

Joined: 04 Aug 2007
Posts: 31
Location: CENTENNIAL COLORADO

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

Try:  

   

Roger Lee  

Tucson, Az.  

Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080  

   

Roger Lee (ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com (ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com))   

   

Hope this helps.  

   

Joe R  

       

From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net

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Why can I not find an authorized Rotax engine technician listed any where in the US? I went to the Rotax-owners.com site and clicked on the tab for support, and under that tab is a list of items, one of which is “find a technician”. When you follow that trail I cannot find a technician listed in any of the US states. Why is this? Certainly there must be some Rotax engine authorized technicians in the US!!  

Have I just made a mistake or am I correct in my finding?  

   

Hugh McKay  

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Venu Rao

Joined: 14 Oct 2007
Posts: 16
Location: Texas

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

Anyone Rotax technicians in Texas/Central TexasThanks,

Venu

Austin, TX

On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Joe Ronco wrote:

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Roger Lee

Tucson, Az.

Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080

 

Roger Lee (ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com (ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com))

 

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Joe R

 

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Why can I not find an authorized Rotax engine technician listed any where in the US? I went to the Rotax-owners.com site and clicked on the tab for support, and under that tab is a list of items, one of which is “find a technician”. When you follow that trail I cannot find a technician listed in any of the US states. Why is this? Certainly there must be some Rotax engine authorized technicians in the US!!

Have I just made a mistake or am I correct in my finding?

 

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Rotax 912 UL

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Roger Lee

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1464
Location: Tucson, Az.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Rotax Engine Technicians

Hi Guys,



I see Joe listed my name. Thanks, Joe.

I'm here in Tucson, Az if you need anything.

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Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056

bob(at)fly-ul.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

On 07:28 AM 12/16/2008, hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net wrote:

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		  Why can I not find an authorized Rotax engine technician listed any where in the US? I went to the Rotax-owners.com site and clicked on the tab for support, and under that tab is a list of items, one of which is “find a technician”


	


I've been on travel, and just now catching up on e-mails. My apologies if someone else already posted the answer. You'll find the list of Rotax techs, here: http://www.rotaxflyingclub.com/global/repaircentre.htm

I'm not sure why Rotax-Owner doesn't keep their site up to date 





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e-mail: bob(at)fly-ul.com

WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com

Cmflyboy12(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

can i use 100L fuel in my 582 2 stroke rotax



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Roger Lee

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1464
Location: Tucson, Az.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Rotax Engine Technicians

You should not use 100LL in your 2 stroke. Stay with auto fuel.

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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056

matronics(at)bob.brennan.
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

Roger, shouldn't that be - you should *try* to use auto fuel wherever

possible, at least the octane level recommended for your engine (my 582 is

91 octane), and with as little and preferably no ethanol, and never above

10% tested. If not possible use 100LL with an additive such as Decalin. And

make sure everything in your fuel delivery system is ethanol tolerant.



We all know auto gas without ethanol is nearly impossible to find in most

areas now, and you would be hard-pressed to find an FBO on a cross-country

that sells mogas. The airport directory for Pennsylvania lists 1 airport in

the whole state that sells mogas.



I bow to your expertise as a Rotax repairman - but in the real world are my

recommendations above the best one can go by? Always willing to learn!



Bob Brennan - N717GB

ELSA Repairman, inspection rated

1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox

Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop

Wrightsville Pa



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Roger Lee

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1464
Location: Tucson, Az.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: 100LL in 2 Strokes

Hi Bob,



Here is a page out of the 2 Stroke Operators Manual. This is taught in the Rotax classes, too.



Bob your right in your statements. "Try" is the operative word, but try hard.



You should avoid using 100LL in 2 strokes if at all possible. They were never really designed to handle the lead like the 4 strokes.  It is more likely to gum up the rings for one. That said I would try very hard to stay away from 100LL in the 912's also if possible. I hate lead build up. If you had to use it because you are out of fuel somewhere then an emergency fuel use would certainly take precedence. Using 100LL in your 2 stroke all the time will cause more maint and possibly premature engine rebuild. 

I know the engine seems to run fine because 100LL is fuel, but the darn lead causes issues. You are right that if you get stuck using 100LL then a fuel additive like Decalin should be used to help with the lead scavenging. If you plan a cross-country then use some program like AirNav to find the airports that have Mogas. I know that finding these airports are not always feasible, but one should try. In my 912ULS I personally will use 91 octane with ethanol before using 100LL. Most of us aren't flying 2 strokes above 8K-10K MLS to worry about any kind of a vapor lock. If you have an exposed engine verses a fully cowled engine then vapor lock is reduced.

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Tucson, Az.
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: Rotax Engine Technicians

Roger,

Another point is since 100LL is a lighter fuel, thus more fuel/larger 

jetting is required. We all know that lean mixture on a 2 stroke is 

not so good. If one had the luxury of EFI then the efi would 

compensate, but with carbs re jetting is necessary. The same comment 

applies to gas contaminated with alcohol. New jetting is necessary to 

avoid lean mixture.  This info comes from the auto race guys who use 

100LL or E85 in their carb equipped engines high compression engines.

Paul

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At 10:42 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote:

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Hi Bob,



Here is a page (10- out of the 2 Stroke Operators Manual. This is 

taught in the Rotax classes, too.



Bob your right in your statements. "Try" is the operative word, but try hard.



You should avoid using 100LL in 2 strokes if at all possible. They 

were never really designed to handle the lead like the 4 

strokes.  It is more likely to gum up the rings for one. That said I 

would try very hard to stay away from 100LL in the 912's also if 

possible. If you had to use it because you are out of fuel somewhere 

then an emergency fuel use would certainly take precedence. Using 

100LL in your 2 stroke all the time will cause more maint and 

possibly premature engine rebuild.

I know the engine seems to run fine because 100LL is fuel, but the 

darn lead causes issues. You are right that if you get stuck using 

100LL then a fuel additive like Decalin should be used to help with 

the lead scavenging. If you plan a cross-country then use some 

program like AirNav to find the airports that have Mogas. I know 

that finding these airports are not always feasible, but one should 

try. In my 912ULS I personally will use 91 octane with ethanol 

before using 100LL. Most of us aren't flying 2 strokes above 8K-10K 

MLS to worry about any kind of a vapor lock. If you have an exposed 

engine verses a fully cowled engine then vapor lock is reduced.



--------

Roger Lee

Tucson, Az.

Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated

Rotax Service Center

520-574-1080





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