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Dirtbos

Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 13
Location: Southern California

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:38 am Post subject: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

Is anyone out there flying the Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP engine conversion in a 701?  If so, how does it perform (climb rate, cruise, etc.).



I read an article and it mentioned a fellow named Tom Mills who thought that the 1300 felt like 70 HP.  I wonder if it was a reduction drive.  Does anyone know about this one?



Any input would be greatly appreciated   



Mike

dougsnash

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Posts: 281

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:56 am Post subject: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

Mike, I'm not absolutely sure about this but I think there was a Tom Mills in Southern Ontario that did extensive flight training in a 701 with Suzuki engines.  A year or two ago (I think this was it) he got a "to good to pass up" deal on a 912 and switched over.



Mark Townsend might have more details as they are located fairly close together.



Also, I have no idea if this is the Tom Mills you are refering too.



Hope this helps



Doug MacDonald

CH-701 Scratch Builder

NW Ontario, Canada



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--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Dirtbos <dirtbozz(at)att.net> wrote:



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		   "Dirtbos" <dirtbozz(at)att.net>

 

 Is anyone out there flying the Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP

 engine conversion in a 701?  If so, how does it perform

 (climb rate, cruise, etc.).

 

 I read an article and it mentioned a fellow named Tom Mills

 who thought that the 1300 felt like 70 HP.  I wonder if it

 was a reduction drive.  Does anyone know about this one?

 

 Any input would be greatly appreciated   

 

 Mike

ch701builder(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

Isn't this the same engine as the Geo Metro 1.3L?

If it is, then search matronics Zenith list for the Purple Dragon

Rick I think is flying behind one. www.n701RR.com is his website.



Keith

N 38.9940

W 105.1305

Alt. 9,100'

CH701 - scratch

From: Dirtbos <dirtbozz(at)att.net>

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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

Hi Mike,

You might look at Rick Roberts 701 as it's powered by the Suzuki 1300 

and it's a nice setup

check the link below.

http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/7-photo18a.html#suzuki



Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com



Dirtbos wrote:

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 Is anyone out there flying the Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP engine conversion in a 701?  If so, how does it perform (climb rate, cruise, etc.).



 I read an article and it mentioned a fellow named Tom Mills who thought that the 1300 felt like 70 HP.  I wonder if it was a reduction drive.  Does anyone know about this one?



 Any input would be greatly appreciated   



 Mike

Dirtbos

Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 13
Location: Southern California

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

I appreciate your responses.



I took a look at Rick Robert's website and only find a Cessna 140 featured.  I could not find anything about his 701.



I had seen photos of his aircraft before.  It is a very nice example of quality construction.  Great paint job also.



I would love to get some more information about this aircraft.



Mike

kmccune

Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 577
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

Ricks site sort of changed from Raven G13 CH701 to Cessna 140 over night. 

Not sure what is up? Rick are you out there?

I was thinking of this engine but Ricks sudden silence as of late has pretty much put me off of this engine. Sure would like to hear from you Rick.



Kevin

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dougsnash

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Posts: 281

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

Kevin, If I remember correctly, Rick sold his 701 very shortly after his first flight and went in partners with someone on the 140.  Of course, my memory could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time.



Doug MacDonald

NW Ontario, Canada



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 "kmccune" <kmccune(at)somtel.net>

 

 Ricks site sort of changed from Raven G13 CH701 to Cessna

 140 over night. 

 Not sure what is up? Rick are you out there?

 I was thinking of this engine but Ricks sudden silence as

 of late has pretty much put me off of this engine. Sure

 would like to hear from you Rick.

 

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Dirtbos

Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 13
Location: Southern California

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

 	  kmccune wrote: 	
		  Ricks site sort of changed from Raven G13 CH701 to Cessna 140 over night. 

Not sure what is up? Rick are you out there?

I was thinking of this engine but Ricks sudden silence as of late has pretty much put me off of this engine. Sure would like to hear from you Rick.



Kevin 	




Kevin,



Rick responded to a PM this evening.  He spoke positively about the engine (not so much about the IVO prop).  He liked the Raven Re-drive also.  He said that the plane "flew great".  No performance specs though.  I especially like his aircraft because of the look of the cowling he used.  Apparently he used a VW Rabbit radiator that sits back under the engine "similar to what the Subaru guys use".  He referred me to Larry McFarland's site,   http://www.macsmachine.com/ .  Larry built an HD but the site shows some good shots of the radiator set up.



Personally I'm feeling pretty good about the combination at this point.  Of coarse I'm going to do some more research.  I spoke to the owner at Raven today.  After the Holidays he is going to refer me to some builders that have used the 1300 with his re-drive.  He is quite busy now due to a time sensitive remodel (I believe at his shop) so I am going to leave him alone until then.



It is certainly not a 100 HP 912, but I would think it would perform at least as well as the 80 HP version.  And you cannot beat the price tag.



Mike Allen

Dirtbos

Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 13
Location: Southern California

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

Here is a link to a photo showing the radiator mounted to the underside of the floor pan on Rick's 701.



 http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/pic07/final2.jpg



I have looked at it a number of times, but did not notice the air intake until seeing the set up on Larry's website.  Probably a bit "draggy" but with the 701, I won't be looking to break any speed records anyway.  Just have some fun.     



Mike

rroberts

Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Posts: 50
Location: Birmingham, AL USA

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

Guys,

I have put the my 701 web site back up. 

Remember, it is for entertainment purposes only!



www.n701rr.com

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kmccune

Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 577
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

Thanks Rick I am always entertained by airplanes!

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Kevin

Dirtbos

Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 13
Location: Southern California

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Raven/Suzuki 1300 90 HP Conversion

[quote="kmccune"]Thanks Rick I am always entertained by airplanes!

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Kevin[/quote/]





Ditto from me.



Thanks Rick,    



Mike Allen

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