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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

We (in lower, Lower Michigan) got about 5-11" of new snow today,  

(added to the 3-4" last week) but the damn stuff didn't quit until  

flying hours...for me....were over for the day. Plus, the driveway  

into the hangar was too deep to negotiate, and the plow guy was not  

available. Tomorrow will/should be better for getting my ski-equipped  

Kitfox out and enjoy the snow-flying. If this stuff would just come  

2-3" at a time, I could handle the driveway and parking (the car)  

problems, but when it comes in "wholesale" amounts, it's just too  

much...damn!

Oh well, I've got a fresh bottle of Baileys Irish Cream to help me  

through the night, plenty of wood brought inside to feed the fire,  

and plenty of projects (vacuum bagging and TIG-welding practicing to  

be done for the next pair of skis) to keep me busy. And you guys have  

got your Kitfox-building projects, so all is well.  



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

Lynn C Same here in Rockford. 10" today and I was cutting firewood. The difference is C I am studying for the written test. I will take it after Christmas. I also need some welding practice. I can't mig weld except in the flat. Haven't practiced enough yet to get the right settings on the machine or proper torch position yet. It is kind of like my painting experience C I do it so infrequently that I am always starting over again.

  

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 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford C IL



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		   From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net

 Subject: Kitfox-List: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

 Date: Fri C 19 Dec 2008 17:26:41 -0500

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

 

 We (in lower C Lower Michigan) got about 5-11" of new snow today C 

 (added to the 3-4" last week) but the damn stuff didn't quit until 

 flying hours...for me....were over for the day. Plus C the driveway 

 into the hangar was too deep to negotiate C and the plow guy was not 

 available. Tomorrow will/should be better for getting my ski-equipped 

 Kitfox out and enjoy the snow-flying. If this stuff would just come 

 2-3" at a time C I could handle the driveway and parking (the car) 

 problems C but when it comes in "wholesale" amounts C it's just too 

 much...damn!

 Oh well C I've got a fresh bottle of Baileys Irish Cream to help me 

 through the night C plenty of wood brought inside to feed the fire C 

 and plenty of projects (vacuum bagging and TIG-welding practicing to 

 be done for the next pair of skis) to keep me busy. And you guys have 

 got your Kitfox-building projects C so all is well. 

 

 Lynn Matteson

 Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger

 Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 596+ hrs

 Sensenich 62x46

 flying again after rebuild C and new Electroair direct-fire ignition 

 system;

 also building a new pair of snow skis

 

 

 

 

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

Lynn,

At least you have skis so some fun to look foreword to.  We have plenty of snow in Central Washington and more on the way.  I wonder if I can take the skis off my snowmobile and put them on my kitfox.



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

We're supposed to get between 11" and 24" on the ground before  

Christmas. And me with undersized skis...drat!

They say that practice is what makes makes a TIG weldor, and to a  

lesser extent the MIG. I had to weld a little on a snow-thrower  

yesterday, and it was a real effort not to use the TIG, but the MIG  

laid the metal down where I needed it, and a lot faster too. Now I've  

got the "big 4"...arc, gas, MIG, and TIG, so no excuses for not being  

able to stick something together...except for practice. The other  

three I can make a presentable weld, but the TIG is a bear to master.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis

do not archive



On Dec 19, 2008, at 6:24 PM, patrick reilly wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Lynn, Same here in Rockford. 10" today and I was cutting firewood.  

 The difference is, I am studying for the written test. I will take  

 it after Christmas. I also need some welding practice. I can't mig  

 weld except in the flat. Haven't practiced enough yet to get the  

 right settings on the machine or proper torch position yet. It is  

 kind of like my painting experience, I do it so infrequently that I  

 am always starting over again.



 do not archive

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL



 > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net

 > Subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

 > Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:26:41 -0500

 > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 >

 > 

 >

 > We (in lower, Lower Michigan) got about 5-11" of new snow today,

 > (added to the 3-4" last week) but the damn stuff didn't quit until

 > flying hours...for me....were over for the day. Plus, the driveway

 > into the hangar was too deep to negotiate, and the plow guy was not

 > available. Tomorrow will/should be better for getting my ski- 

 equipped

 > Kitfox out and enjoy the snow-flying. If this stuff would just come

 > 2-3" at a time, I could handle the driveway and parking (the car)

 > problems, but when it comes in "wholesale" amounts, it's just too

 > much...damn!

 > Oh well, I've got a fresh bottle of Baileys Irish Cream to help me

 > through the night, plenty of wood brought inside to feed the fire,

 > and plenty of projects (vacuum bagging and TIG-welding practicing to

 > be done for the next pair of skis) to keep me busy. And you guys  

 have

 > got your Kitfox-building projects, so all is well. 

 >

 > Lynn Matteson

 > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

 > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

 > Sensenich 62x46

 > flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition

 > system;

 > also building a new pair of snow skis

 >

 >

 >

 >

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 >

 >

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

I've had my plane on skis for almost 2 weeks C Flew about 3 hours between yesterday and Wednesday.  Temps were about +7 F both days so I wasn't sweating anyway!  We had about 12" of snow last weekend on top of the 6" or so that was there allready.  Supposed to get 4"-8" tomorrow.  Only real problem is the lakes are getting water coming up on top of the ice because the weight of all the snow on it and that makes slush which is not good to land on.  I ruined a prop last winter when I taxied through slush that splashed up and hit the prop blades.  Well at least up  here in Mn we allways have something to complain about.  LOL.  Take care C  Jim Chuk  Avid MK IV  Mn



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		   Subject: Re: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

 From: nahsikhs(at)elltel.net

 Date: Fri C 19 Dec 2008 15:39:50 -0800

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net>

 

 Lynn C

 At least you have skis so some fun to look foreword to. We have plenty of snow in Central washing and more on the way. I wonder if I can take the skis off my snowmobile and put them on my kitfox.

 

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akflyer

Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 574
Location: Soldotna AK

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

 	  Lynn Matteson wrote: 	
		  We're supposed to get between 11" and 24" on the ground before  

Christmas. And me with undersized skis...drat!

They say that practice is what makes makes a TIG weldor, and to a  

lesser extent the MIG. I had to weld a little on a snow-thrower  

yesterday, and it was a real effort not to use the TIG, but the MIG  

laid the metal down where I needed it, and a lot faster too. Now I've  

got the "big 4"...arc, gas, MIG, and TIG, so no excuses for not being  

able to stick something together...except for practice. The other  

three I can make a presentable weld, but the TIG is a bear to master.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis

do not archive

	




Lynn,



What tig unit do you have?  are you using 1/16th or 1/8 tungsten?  do you have a foot pedal, or better yet a thumb wheel to control the heat?  If you are using 1/8" it is a bit trickier to run without burning through.  Keep the tungsten VERY sharp.  if you dip your wick, sand it sharp again.  The easiest way it to put it in the cordless drill, spin it up and hold it against a belt or disk sander very lightly. 



feeding the rod is the biggest issue most people have. They make a wire "pen" that has a little roller wheel on it to feed the wire if you dont have the thumb / pointer finger trained to feed the wire.  



Keep the tungsten protrusion limited and use a small cup.  Most of the time I bet my tungsten only sticks out 1/32 to maybe 1/16th from the cup.



For the airframe welding I use my buddies Miller econo tig unit and it works great, but the thumb wheel addition was a must.  He originally had a foot pedal, but most time with planes you find yourself in a position that the foot pedal is un-accesible.

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Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

They probably wouldn't be large enough...or were you just kidding?



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis

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On Dec 19, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Tom Jones wrote:



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 Lynn,

 At least you have skis so some fun to look foreword to.  We have  

 plenty of snow in Central washing and more on the way.  I wonder if  

 I can take the skis off my snowmobile and put them on my kitfox.



 Merry Christmas to all, card attached.



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 Tom Jones

 Classic IV

 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp

 Ellensburg, WA

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

I flew to my CFI' s house yesterday to do some work (I'm installing a  

"Y"-shaped 150 control column in place of his 172 Cessna's "T"-shaped  

control column, which requires lengthening the Y by about 5/8"...the  

reason? Radio clearance in the center stack), and after a bit it  

started to BR, so he suggested that I take it home or put it in his  

hangar. I opted for the trip home...about 6 miles....in less than  

ideal conditions. Made it fine. A half-hour later it was sun-shining  

conditions. I flew later on for about an hour before it was time to  

put it away. I went to some grass strips locally that I haven't been  

into for a while. It was pretty flat lighting early on in the day,  

and very hard to interpret the landing. I flew back over my CFI's  

house and there was another plane...a Cub...on the ground with skis.  

I landed and shot the breeze, then the other plane and I both left.  

Pretty cool...both my CFI and this other guy are captains for AA  

and..can't recall the other guy's airline...and both own and play  

around (A&P/IA's) with small and large (Widgeons) planes in their  

spare time. I'm lucky to be getting time to spend with this crowd and  

getting the education that I am...damn! wish I was younger.

Did the blades break right away?...crack?

Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis

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On Dec 19, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I've had my plane on skis for almost 2 weeks, Flew about 3 hours  

 between yesterday and Wednesday.  Temps were about +7 F both days  

 so I wasn't sweating anyway!  We had about 12" of snow last weekend  

 on top of the 6" or so that was there allready.  Supposed to get  

 4"-8" tomorrow.  Only real problem is the lakes are getting water  

 coming up on top of the ice because the weight of all the snow on  

 it and that makes slush which is not good to land on.  I ruined a  

 prop last winter when I taxied through slush that splashed up and  

 hit the prop blades.  Well at least up  here in Mn we allways have  

 something to complain about.  LOL.  Take care,  Jim Chuk  Avid MK  

 IV  Mn

 > Subject: Re: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

 > From: nahsikhs(at)elltel.net

 > Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:39:50 -0800

 > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 >

 > 

 >

 > Lynn,

 > At least you have skis so some fun to look foreword to. We have  

 plenty of snow in Central washing and more on the way. I wonder if  

 I can take the skis off my snowmobile and put them on my kitfox.

 >

 > Merry Christmas to all, card attached.

 >

 > --------

 > Tom Jones

 > Classic IV

 > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp

 > Ellensburg, WA

 >

 >

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

I'm using 1/16" right now, but just picked up some .040" ceriated  

tungsten (suggested for aluminum), smaller cup, collets, and collet  

bodies. I have the Miller Diversion 165 TIG machine...got it about 2  

weeks ago, and I'm having trouble getting used to using the built-in  

thumb wheel to control the amperage, so I ordered and got the foot  

pedal. It's a lot easier now to control amperage, and now I can  

concentrate on playing the torch correctly. Once I get the proper  

torch action, and can consistently make good welds, I'll unplug the  

foot control and try again using the thumb wheel for amp control.  

It's hard for me...a fairly accomplished gas welder...to hold the TIG  

torch, play it, and control the amps at the same time. Dipping the  

rod into the puddle is kinda new, too. I'm used to melting the rod  

with a gas torch, drop it in the puddle, and melting it in, and this  

isn't the way the TIG instructions say to do it....practice continues.

I would have thought that a longer stick-out would be better...I'm  

using 3/16" to 1/4"...according to the instructions. I'll try less  

and see how that goes. Once I get the hang of the right stick-out,  

amperage, torch action, torch angle, rod angle, and speed, I'll try  

using the thumb wheel amp control again.

You say there's a rod or wire feeder? Does this attach to the torch,  

or is it used with the other hand?

Regarding sharp tungstens....I got a little jar of sharpening  

"crystals"...you get the tungsten hot and dip it into the jar,  

rotating the torch, and shake off what adheres to the tungsten...it's  

amazing, but it works...very pointed tungsten. Won't work for welding  

aluminum though...makes it too sharp, according...again...to the  

instructions, which call for a blunt tungsten for aluminum.

Geez, they just gave the weather forecast for lower Michigan.... 

11"-26" of snow on the ground by Monday, single-digits and sub-zero  

wind chills for Sunday. That would be a warm forecast for Alaska, eh,  

Leonard?

Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis

do not archive

On Dec 19, 2008, at 9:16 PM, akflyer wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Lynn Matteson wrote:

> We're supposed to get between 11" and 24" on the ground before

> Christmas. And me with undersized skis...drat!

> They say that practice is what makes makes a TIG weldor, and to a

> lesser extent the MIG. I had to weld a little on a snow-thrower

> yesterday, and it was a real effort not to use the TIG, but the MIG

> laid the metal down where I needed it, and a lot faster too. Now I've

> got the "big 4"...arc, gas, MIG, and TIG, so no excuses for not being

> able to stick something together...except for practice. The other

> three I can make a presentable weld, but the TIG is a bear to master.

>

> Lynn Matteson

> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

> Sensenich 62x46

> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition

> system;

> also building a new pair of snow skis

> do not archive

>

 Lynn,

 What tig unit do you have?  are you using 1/16th or 1/8 tungsten?   

 do you have a foot pedal, or better yet a thumb wheel to control  

 the heat?  If you are using 1/8" it is a bit trickier to run  

 without burning through.  Keep the tungsten VERY sharp.  if you dip  

 your wick, sand it sharp again.  The easiest way it to put it in  

 the cordless drill, spin it up and hold it against a belt or disk  

 sander very lightly.

 feeding the rod is the biggest issue most people have. They make a  

 wire "pen" that has a little roller wheel on it to feed the wire if  

 you dont have the thumb / pointer finger trained to feed the wire.

 Keep the tungsten protrusion limited and use a small cup.  Most of  

 the time I bet my tungsten only sticks out 1/32 to maybe 1/16th  

 from the cup.

 For the airframe welding I use my buddies Miller econo tig unit and  

 it works great, but the thumb wheel addition was a must.  He  

 originally had a foot pedal, but most time with planes you find  

 yourself in a position that the foot pedal is un-accesible.

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 Soldotna AK

 Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV

 582 IVO IFA

 Full Lotus 1260

 As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis  

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

Hi Lynn C  After I landed C I taxied into about 3" of  slush that I didn't see under about 10" of snow.  When the slush hit the prop C it chipped off some of the thin trailing edge off of one blade.  I was at a fast idle when it happened and as things started shaking I shut down right away.  At any rate it kind of ruined that day.  Stay out of the slush!  Take care C  Jim Chuk   Avid MK IV  Mn

[quote] 

 Did the blades break right away?...crack?

 

 Lynn Matteson

 Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger

 Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 596+ hrs

 Sensenich 62x46

 flying again after rebuild C and new Electroair direct-fire ignition 

 system;

 also building a new pair of snow skis

 do not archive

 

 

 

 On Dec 19 C 2008 C at 8:10 PM C Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:

 

 > I've had my plane on skis for almost 2 weeks C Flew about 3 hours 

 > between yesterday and Wednesday. Temps were about +7 F both days 

 > so I wasn't sweating anyway! We had about 12" of snow last weekend 

 > on top of the 6" or so that was there allready. Supposed to get 

 > 4"-8" tomorrow. Only real problem is the lakes are getting water 

 > coming up on top of the ice because the weight of all the snow on 

 > it and that makes slush which is not good to land on. I ruined a 

 > prop last winter when I taxied through slush that splashed up and 

 > hit the prop blades. Well at least up here in Mn we allways have 

 > something to complain about. LOL. Take care C Jim Chuk Avid MK 

 > IV Mn

 >

 > > Subject: Re: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

 > > From: nahsikhs(at)elltel.net

 > > Date: Fri C 19 Dec 2008 15:39:50 -0800

 > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 > >

 > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net>

 > >

 > > Lynn C

 > > At least you have skis so some fun to look foreword to. We have 

 > plenty of snow in Central washing and more on the way. I wonder if 

 > I can take the skis off my snowmobile and put them on my kitfox.

 > >

 > > Merry Christmas to all C card attached.

 > >

 > > --------

 > > Tom Jones

 > > Classic IV

 > > 503 Rotax C 72 inch Two blade Warp

 > > Ellensburg C WA

 > >

 > >

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

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It is called a tig pen, to help feed the wire if your having trouble with it.  If you are good at gas welding then feeding the wire should not be an issue for you.  I have never seen the "crystals" for sharpening tungsten.  gonna have to check into those!  I am guessing it just removes the steel that you have melted onto the tungsten and does not actually sharpen it if you stick the tip and break it off.. worth checking into.



Naw, you guys have been having colder winters than we have for the last few years.  Here at work we hit 65 below ambient a few times last year, but I think it never got more than 25 below at the house for more than a few days.  It got to -5 the other night at home.  it is 30 above now and freezing rain....

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

[quote="thesupe(at)hotmail.com"]Hi Lynn Cï¿½ After I landed C I taxied intoï¿½about 3" of ï¿½slush that I didn't see under about 10" of snow.ï¿½ When the slush hit the prop C it chipped off some of the thin trailing edge off of one blade.ï¿½ I was at a fast idleï¿½when it happened and as things started shaking I shut down right away.ï¿½ At any rate it kind of ruined that day.ï¿½ Stay out of the slush!ï¿½ Take care Cï¿½ Jim Chukï¿½ï¿½ Avid MK IVï¿½ Mn

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When landing on a lake, you should come in and "drag" it.  be like a wheel landing.  After "dragging" a set of track, go around and take a look at them from the air.  If the tracks are grey it is cause they are filling with water from the over flow.  Find another place to land.

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

You are so right Leni C and actually where I landed it was okey C but I got into trouble after I landed and was taxieng to another part of the lake.  I also watch for fresh snowmobile tracks to see if they are filling with water from there being slush.  Take care C  Jim Chuk   Avid MK IV  Mn



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 Date: Fri C 19 Dec 2008 21:14:14 -0800

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 [quote="thesupe(at)hotmail.com"]Hi Lynn Cï¿½ After I landed C I taxied intoï¿½about 3" of ï¿½slush that I didn't see under about 10" of snow.ï¿½ When the slush hit the prop C it chipped off some of the thin trailing edge off of one blade.ï¿½ I was at a fast idleï¿½when it happened and as things started shaking I shut down right away.ï¿½ At any rate it kind of ruined that day.ï¿½ Stay out of the slush!ï¿½ Take care Cï¿½ Jim Chukï¿½ï¿½ Avid MK IVï¿½ Mn

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 When landing on a lake C you should come in and "drag" it. be like a wheel landing. After "dragging" a set of track C go around and take a look at them from the air. If the tracks are grey it is cause they are filling with water from the over flow. Find another place to land.

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

That looks pretty slick...I'll look into it further. Thanks for the  

website.



The product for sharpening tungsten electrodes is called  

"Chemsharp...tungsten electrode sharpener", made in USA, by Dynaflux,  

Inc., out of Cartersville, Georgia, 30120, USA. Another name on the  

label is ULTRAbrand. A 5 oz jar was about $14. You let about 1" of  

tungsten stick out and touch it to the ground until it glows cherry  

red about 3/8" up from the tip, then quickly immerse approx. 1/4"  

deep into the product repeatedly until the desired point is formed.  

It really points the tungsten, much more than the 2 1/2 times the  

electrode diameter that my instructions for the welder call for. I  

haven't tried it yet when welding aluminum, as my instructions call  

for a blunt tungsten for aluminum.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis

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On Dec 20, 2008, at 12:11 AM, akflyer wrote:



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 It is called a tig pen, to help feed the wire if your having  

 trouble with it.  If you are good at gas welding then feeding the  

 wire should not be an issue for you.  I have never seen the  

 "crystals" for sharpening tungsten.  gonna have to check into  

 those!  I am guessing it just removes the steel that you have  

 melted onto the tungsten and does not actually sharpen it if you  

 stick the tip and break it off.. worth checking into.



 Naw, you guys have been having colder winters than we have for the  

 last few years.  Here at work we hit 65 below ambient a few times  

 last year, but I think it never got more than 25 below at the house  

 for more than a few days.  It got to -5 the other night at home.   

 it is 30 above now and freezing rain....



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 Leonard Perry

 Soldotna AK

 Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV

 582 IVO IFA

 Full Lotus 1260

 As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis  

 takes over.



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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
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Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

At 06:16 PM 12/19/2008, you wrote:

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		  What tig unit do you have?  are you using 1/16th or 1/8 tungsten?  do you have a foot pedal, or better yet a thumb wheel to control the heat?  If you are using 1/8" it is a bit trickier to run without burning through.  Keep the tungsten VERY sharp.  if you dip your wick, sand it sharp again.  The easiest way it to put it in the cordless drill, spin it up and hold it against a belt or disk sander very lightly. 	


 HOLD ON THERE LEONARD! (LOL) How about a subject change. Things are getting kind of loosy-goosy in the subject category and it makes for lousy archives. I appreciate a minor digression, but some of these threads are taking on a life of their own.



 Guidelines: How about this: If you think someone might reply to your digression, it should have another subject. If you think A LOT of people might reply, it should definitely have another subject.



 Thanks all!



 

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

Good advice, Jim. I got a 20-minute flight in today after the  

driveway into the hangar was cleaned of about 10" of snow. The  

takeoff was sluggish, but finally, just as I was about to abort, it  

lifted off. Landed at Napoleon Field (3NP), where the snowmobiles (I  

hate those damn things) had carved up 9-27 pretty good. I landed  

where they hadn't made tracks, and it was smo-o-o-th. Taxiing back,  

the going was again sluggish, so I steered into those s'mobile tracks  

and speed picked up. Turned and took off, using their tracks for a  

less friction takeoff...I hate them a little less now. But come thaw  

time, and I have to land in frozen ruts (maybe some of my own) I'll  

hate 'em again. : )



I can't wait until I get my new ones built, because the friction will  

be much less, and taxiing and takeoffs will benefit.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis





On Dec 20, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:



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		   Hi Lynn,  After I landed, I taxied into about 3" of  slush that I  

 didn't see under about 10" of snow.  When the slush hit the prop,  

 it chipped off some of the thin trailing edge off of one blade.  I  

 was at a fast idle when it happened and as things started shaking I  

 shut down right away.  At any rate it kind of ruined that day.   

 Stay out of the slush!  Take care,  Jim Chuk   Avid MK IV  Mn

 >

 > Did the blades break right away?...crack?

 >

 > Lynn Matteson

 > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

 > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

 > Sensenich 62x46

 > flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition

 > system;

 > also building a new pair of snow skis

 > do not archive

 >

 >

 >

 > On Dec 19, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:

 >

 > > I've had my plane on skis for almost 2 weeks, Flew about 3 hours

 > > between yesterday and Wednesday. Temps were about +7 F both days

 > > so I wasn't sweating anyway! We had about 12" of snow last weekend

 > > on top of the 6" or so that was there allready. Supposed to get

 > > 4"-8" tomorrow. Only real problem is the lakes are getting water

 > > coming up on top of the ice because the weight of all the snow on

 > > it and that makes slush which is not good to land on. I ruined a

 > > prop last winter when I taxied through slush that splashed up and

 > > hit the prop blades. Well at least up here in Mn we allways have

 > > something to complain about. LOL. Take care, Jim Chuk Avid MK

 > > IV Mn

 > >

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 > > plenty of snow in Central washing and more on the way. I wonder if

 > > I can take the skis off my snowmobile and put them on my kitfox.

 > > >

 > > > Merry Christmas to all, card attached.

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Lynn Matteson

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

I'll shoulder some of the blame for the welding topic...sorry.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis

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On Dec 20, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Guy Buchanan wrote:



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		   At 06:16 PM 12/19/2008, you wrote:

> What tig unit do you have?  are you using 1/16th or 1/8 tungsten?   

> do you have a foot pedal, or better yet a thumb wheel to control  

> the heat?  If you are using 1/8" it is a bit trickier to run  

> without burning through.  Keep the tungsten VERY sharp.  if you  

> dip your wick, sand it sharp again.  The easiest way it to put it  

> in the cordless drill, spin it up and hold it against a belt or  

> disk sander very lightly.



 HOLD ON THERE LEONARD! (LOL) How about a subject change. Things are  

 getting kind of loosy-goosy in the subject category and it makes  

 for lousy archives. I appreciate a minor digression, but some of  

 these threads are taking on a life of their own.



 Guidelines: How about this: If you think someone might reply to  

 your digression, it should have another subject. If you think A LOT  

 of people might reply, it should definitely have another subject.



 Thanks all!



 Guy Buchanan - Kitfox List Moderator

 San Diego, CA

 K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade

 100% and flying thanks mostly to Bob Ducar



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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

Tom C That's not funny. Deke Morrisse in MI built his out of the plastic skins from Artic Cat used on their snow machines. I bought a set of skins and will have them on mine next year. They aren't real big so you need packed snow I would imagine. How about that Deke? Those snow machine skies you designed won't work in deep snow C or will they?

  

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 At least you have skis so some fun to look foreword to. We have plenty of snow in Central washing and more on the way. I wonder if I can take the skis off my snowmobile and put them on my kitfox.

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

Deke and Pat-

How wide and long are these "skins"? What is the area of each ski  

(length in inches, multiplied by the width in inches)? Like Leonard  

Perry pointed out the other day, you need all the area you can get in  

soft powder snow (or words to that effect).

Maybe skis could be added to that list of useless things in aviation:  

Fuel left back at the hangar.....altitude above you....runway behind  

you.....(can't think of the others)...and wider skis left on the  

drawing table.

I had a heck of a time getting out of 10" of snow today, and earlier  

this year from about 9" of snow. Granted, my skis are wheel- 

penetration skis, and I have re-thought the design, but it seems to  

make sense to have all the area you can get...I think.

Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs

Sensenich 62x46

flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  

system;

also building a new pair of snow skis

On Dec 20, 2008, at 10:34 PM, patrick reilly wrote:

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		   Tom, That's not funny. Deke Morrisse in MI built his out of the  

 plastic skins from Artic Cat used on their snow machines. I bought  

 a set of skins and will have them on mine next year. They aren't  

 real big so you need packed snow I would imagine. How about that  

 Deke? Those snow machine skies you designed won't work in deep  

 snow, or will they?

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL

 > Subject: Re: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

 > From: nahsikhs(at)elltel.net

 > Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:39:50 -0800

 > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

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 > Lynn,

 > At least you have skis so some fun to look foreword to. We have  

 plenty of snow in Central washing and more on the way. I wonder if  

 I can take the skis off my snowmobile and put them on my kitfox.

 >

 > Merry Christmas to all, card attached.

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 > Classic IV

 > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp

 > Ellensburg, WA

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Lovely snow...damned snow! Off topic

There is NO WAY the skis from a sled, unless it was from an old twin track alpine (and that would be marginal), will hold the KF up on anything but very hard packed snow or ice.  They wont even hold up my sled in powder.  If you try landing in 12" of powder you are going straight to he bottom.

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