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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: W&B 601XL Reply with quote

It has already been tested and (as I recall) the pilot and passenger walked
away. Picture attached. Was it Poland or the Czech Republic?

-- Craig

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:22 pm    Post subject: W&B 601XL Reply with quote

I believe it was Minnesota. See:

http://brsparachutes.com/files/Documents/Press%20Releases/PR%20Saves%20212-213.pdf

Terry
At 04:04 PM 1/6/2009 -0700, you wrote:
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It has already been tested and (as I recall) the pilot and passenger walked
away. Picture attached. Was it Poland or the Czech Republic?

-- Craig


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: W&B 601XL Reply with quote

Terry Phillips wrote:
I believe it was Minnesota.


Well they talk funny there too.

That is amazing. I can't put a screw in the canopy without causing a crack yet this one can have a rocket go off inches away and not damage it.

Look at the gear on that thing. It pulled MANY G's on impact and yet the wings stayed on.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: W&B 601XL Reply with quote

If anybody is interested in where the CZAW and european ULM versions have their BRS installed, have a look at the ULM-drawings (6-UL-5).

I am not sure if the 600kg BRS-version would fit right behind the firewall? The ULM version only needs the lighter 450kg parachute.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: W&B 601XL Reply with quote

Martin Pohl wrote:
I am not sure if the 600kg BRS-version would fit right behind the firewall?


I'm considering mounting a BRS-1350 between the firewall and the instrument panel of my 601XL with 650 canopy.

Here's pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/BRS#

When using the 650 canopy on the XL, I believe that the usual baggage compartment location is no longer possible due to the 650 canopy covering what previously would have been the frangible cover installed in a cutout of top skin. It may be possible to mount the BRS behind the baggage compartment bulkhead, but that would move the CG much further aft.

The challenge with putting the BRS up front is that it will displace depth behind the panel, which will limit what can be put in the panel on the passenger's side. To partially mitigate this, I fabricated a pan that allows the BRS to sit lower. I plan to "fine tune" my CG with appropriate placement of the battery.

I'm interested in what other people are doing, particularly those who are installing BRS's on 650's or XL's with 650 canopies.

- Pat


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:11 pm    Post subject: W&B 601XL Reply with quote

Great for flying NORDO with only a compas OVER the instrument panel

Saludos
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Subject: Re: W&B 601XL
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Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:30 PM

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Martin Pohl wrote:
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I am not sure if the 600kg BRS-version would fit right behind the
firewall?

I'm considering mounting a BRS-1350 between the firewall and the instrument
panel of my 601XL with 650 canopy.

Here's pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/BRS#

When using the 650 canopy on the XL, I believe that the usual baggage
compartment location is no longer possible due to the 650 canopy covering what
previously would have been the frangible cover installed in a cutout of top
skin. It may be possible to mount the BRS behind the baggage compartment
bulkhead, but that would move the CG further much aft.

The challenge with putting the BRS up front is that it will displace depth
behind the panel, which will limit what can be put in the panel on the
passenger's side. To partially mitigate this, I fabricated a pan that
allows the BRS to sit lower. I plan to "fine tune" my CG with
appropriate placement of the battery.

I'm interested in what other people are doing, particularly those who are
installing BRS's on 650's or XL's with 650 canopies.

- Pat

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: W&B 601XL Reply with quote

have a look at drawing and pics to see forward installation (std CZAW)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: W&B 601XL Reply with quote

alex_001 wrote:
have a look


Thanks for sharing those, Alex.

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