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vayuwings
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 Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: Full frontal... beauty? |
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Fellow builders - As I am considering the Corvair for my powerplant, along with the E-81 or O-200, I am faced with a personal challenge that appears I would have to live with a long time with the Corvair that maybe someone could help me with.
Tho I give respect to other Corvair drivers that maybe, just maybe, they feel 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' - and I also feel the same as Will Rogers when he said ' I never met an airplane - er, man, I didn't like' yet I wonder, does anyone use a different cowling for the Corvair other than the one I see used in all the pics I've seen?
Or should I resign myself every time I pull the plane out of my hangar hopefully in the future to hearing Lyle Lovett's song 'She was Ugly from the Front' playing in my head?....... 
Just wondering...
Dave -XL
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:56 am Post subject: Full frontal... beauty? |
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Dave,
I have the "usual" cowling for the Corvair and my 601XL. Are you saying my airplane is UGLY ??
We're going to have to take this one outside to avoid breaking things inside !! ( ;>)
Jay in Dallas
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cookwithgas
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Full frontal... beauty? |
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I think she is beautiful......
Scott Laughlin
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120 Hours
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: Full frontal... beauty? |
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I agree !!
Mine too !!
Jay in Dallas
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annken100
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Full frontal... beauty? |
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Dave,
If you don't like the looks of the usual corvair cowl, nothing says you can't design and build one yourself. I happen to like the looks of the William Wynne cowl. I decided to go with it simply because it is less work and will get me in the air faster.
Another consideration is that you don't see the front of your plane when you're flying, so who cares how ugly or pretty it is. 
Ken Pavlou
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William Dominguez
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: Full frontal... beauty? |
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I haven't seen a different cowling in a Corvair 601 but if you decide to make your own design, you will have to consider a rear starter conversion like the KR guys do. The front starter conversion will give you less design freedom.
William Dominguez
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--- On Thu, 1/15/09, vayuwings <vayuwings(at)cox.net> wrote:
[quote]From: vayuwings <vayuwings(at)cox.net>
Subject: Full frontal... beauty?
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 12:26 PM
[quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: "vayuwings"
<vayuwings(at)cox.net>
Fellow builders - As I am considering the Corvair for my powerplant, along
with the E-81 or O-200, I am faced with a personal challenge that appears I
would have to live with a long time with the Corvair that maybe someone could
help me with.
Tho I give respect to other Corvair drivers that maybe, just maybe, they feel
'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' - and I also feel the same as
Will Rogers when he said ' I never met an airplane - er, man, I didn't
like' yet I wonder, does anyone use a different cowling for the Corvair
other than the one I see used in all the pics I've seen?
Or should I resign myself every time I pull the plane out of my hangar
hopefully in the future to hearing Lyle Lovett's song 'She was Ugly from
the Front' playing in my head?....... [Shocked]
Just wondering...
Dave -XL
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Gig Giacona
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Full frontal... beauty? |
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Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder but if you don't think the WW Corvair cowl look better than all the other you should have your eyes ripped out......
JUST KIDDING.
A lot goes into the design of a nosebowl and cowling or at least it should. The WW design has shown it will keep the engine cool and has about the minimum drag you can have in the front of a 601.
Don't forget. If you design your own cowling or use a cowling that was designed for another engine you are going to have to design your own baffle system and that would suck.
Add to that the fact that you have easier and better access to more of the engine than just about any cowl I've seen on any plane certified or experimental and you have winner.
That said, by the time you get to actually installing the it the last thing in the world you are going to want to do is design a nosebowl and cowling.
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vayuwings
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Full frontal... beauty? |
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Well.... thanks to all who responded- whether to my question or not - In answer to that question if there are any other cowlings being used for the many 601's out there I hear that use a Corvair, I'll assume there probably are not any, other than the WW one. I wasn't looking to design an original, and I am aware of the difficulty and considerations needed to build one as much as I can be without ever having built one, I just wanted to see if there might be an alternative to the popular one that I could use.
Guess I shouldn't have used Lyle's song to illustrate my reason for an alternative - my apologies to the 'cowling sensitive' - but I couldn't resist!....sorry 'bout that.
Despite being offered to have my eyes gouged out, taken out back and taught a lesson, or listen to repetitive insistance on how beautiful she is!, Istillfeelsheisbuttuglybutthatsjustmyopinionsopleaseenjoyyourcowling!!!
Thanks again everybody!
Dave
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kmccune
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leinad
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Full frontal... beauty? |
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Dave,
You could do like I'm planning on doing and make your own. If you're a member of EAA they have a nice how too in their builder's articals.
Dan
| vayuwings wrote: | Fellow builders - As I am considering the Corvair for my powerplant, along with the E-81 or O-200, I am faced with a personal challenge that appears I would have to live with a long time with the Corvair that maybe someone could help me with.
Tho I give respect to other Corvair drivers that maybe, just maybe, they feel 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' - and I also feel the same as Will Rogers when he said ' I never met an airplane - er, man, I didn't like' yet I wonder, does anyone use a different cowling for the Corvair other than the one I see used in all the pics I've seen?
Or should I resign myself every time I pull the plane out of my hangar hopefully in the future to hearing Lyle Lovett's song 'She was Ugly from the Front' playing in my head?....... :shock:
Just wondering...
Dave -XL
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But couldn't you use one of the ones for a Continental or some other because engine?