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rparigor(at)SUFFOLK.LIB.N
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: What can I use to cover battery terminals?

I have an Odyssey PC545 battery. That battery uses 6MM screws to mount the positive and negative terminal to its brass lugs.There is only ~ .030" clearance between the bottom of the terminal and the battery case.I will be putting adhesive lined heat shrink on the terminal lapping onto the #4CC wire, but it will still leave plenty of metal exposed to create a momentary 1200 amp short, or at least 545 amps for 5 seconds. Those silicone terminal covers don't have a chance to fit into a .030" gap.I could mutilate the silicone terminal covers, but it will not be a great fit but it will kinda work.I could put electrical tape covering the terminals, that will kinda work but a hack job.Anyone have any ideas for a more eloquent solution?See pictures #25 and #26:http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album266&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.phpThx.Ron Parigoris   [quote][b]

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jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:37 am Post subject: What can I use to cover battery terminals?

Ron, On my Harley I use a sheet of reinforced rubber to cover the whole top of the battery, held on with a simple strap. Not elegant, but in 17 years it's never failed.



Rick



 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:47 AM,  <rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us (rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us)> wrote:

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		   I have an Odyssey PC545 battery. That battery uses 6MM screws to mount the positive and negative terminal to its brass lugs.



There is only ~ .030" clearance between the bottom of the terminal and the battery case.



I will be putting adhesive lined heat shrink on the terminal lapping onto the #4CC wire, but it will still leave plenty of metal exposed to create a momentary 1200 amp short, or at least 545 amps for 5 seconds. 



Those silicone terminal covers don't have a chance to fit into a .030" gap.



I could mutilate the silicone terminal covers, but it will not be a great fit but it will kinda work.



I could put electrical tape covering the terminals, that will kinda work but a hack job.



Anyone have any ideas for a more eloquent solution?



See pictures #25 and #26:

http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album266&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

 

Thx.

Ron Parigoris

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:01 am Post subject: What can I use to cover battery terminals?

On 16-Jan-2008 rparigor(at)SUFFOLK.LIB.NY.US wrote:

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		   I have an Odyssey PC545 battery. That battery uses 6MM screws to mount 

 the positive and negative terminal to its brass lugs.



 There is only ~ .030" clearance between the bottom of the terminal and 

 the battery case.



 I will be putting adhesive lined heat shrink on the terminal lapping 

 onto the #4CC wire, but it will still leave plenty of metal exposed to 

 create a momentary 1200 amp short, or at least 545 amps for 5 seconds. 



 Those silicone terminal covers don't have a chance to fit into a .030" 

 gap.



 I could mutilate the silicone terminal covers, but it will not be a 

 great fit but it will kinda work.



 I could put electrical tape covering the terminals, that will kinda 

 work but a hack job.



 Anyone have any ideas for a more eloquent solution?



 See pictures #25 and #26:

 http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album266&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php 

 <http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album266&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php>



 Thx.

 Ron Parigoris


	


You might want to consider "doming" the case over the terminals.  It can 

be done with the peen end of a ball-peen hammer, or you could use a more 

elegant solution with a tool made just for that task, such as:



http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93539



(Most machine tool suppliers, such as Rutland, Travers, and Enco offer a 

similar item.)



Dale R.

COZY MkIV #0497

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bob.verwey(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:45 am Post subject: What can I use to cover battery terminals?

Use a piece of Tufnol sheet (phenolic)many thicknesses available, bonded to the top of the Batt box. I had the same problem. Works great.Bob Verwey

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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM,  <rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us (rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I have an Odyssey PC545 battery. That battery uses 6MM screws to mount the positive and negative terminal to its brass lugs.



There is only ~ .030" clearance between the bottom of the terminal and the battery case.



I will be putting adhesive lined heat shrink on the terminal lapping onto the #4CC wire, but it will still leave plenty of metal exposed to create a momentary 1200 amp short, or at least 545 amps for 5 seconds. 



Those silicone terminal covers don't have a chance to fit into a .030" gap.



I could mutilate the silicone terminal covers, but it will not be a great fit but it will kinda work.



I could put electrical tape covering the terminals, that will kinda work but a hack job.



Anyone have any ideas for a more eloquent solution?



See pictures #25 and #26:

http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album266&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

 

Thx.

Ron Parigoris

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longg(at)pjm.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:45 am Post subject: What can I use to cover battery terminals?

Thanks for the album shots Ron. That looks like a fun project. You guys

do know that you can buy battery boxes for the Odyssey for about $35.00

right? Bolt on and go.



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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:33 am Post subject: Re: What can I use to cover battery terminals?

Hey Ron,



As I am sure you know, your Odyssey does not require a battery box.

Just a waste of weight for a modern technology battery.

You could simply put a thin sheet of lexan over the terminals, held on

with a small dab of silastic.  I would not do that however until you have

finished troubleshooting your electrical system and avionics because

you will be amazed at how many times you will want to disco the battery

and reconnect 5 minutes later for testing.

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rparigor(at)SUFFOLK.LIB.N
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:37 am Post subject: What can I use to cover battery terminals?

Hi longg



Thx. for the reply.



"You guys do know that you can buy battery boxes for the Odyssey for about

$35.00 right? Bolt on and go."



Yup we looked long and hard at premade boxes. The shape of the fuse floor

of the Europa is torture to bond to as it is a declining cone, only thin

glass layer over foam on inside ~ 1/8" thick is not conducive to bolt to.

We could have set the aluminium box in Expancel/Aeropoxy then BID/Redux

the box to floor, but a few reasons we *descided to scratch build:

*ease of bonding

*ease of making changes

*can easily strengthen if needed

*viabration dampening with form fit to battery

*radiused corners very conducive for 4 Balsa angled legs that are not just

light, but easy to shape and if ever need to move battery, easy t cut 3

BID and break Balsa and move



Ron Parigoris

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rvreynolds(at)macs.net
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: What can I use to cover battery terminals?

I used



T&B Adhesive Insulating Pads for Connectors obtained from the  

aviation section (electrical) of Lowes, Home Depot, etc



These "mastic" pads are about 3" x 5" and 1/8" thick used to insulate  

big electrical connectors.



Cut the pad big enough to cover the terminal and press/mold it around  

the terminal. It can be used two or three times. It does stick to  

itself.



Richard Reynolds

Norfolk, VA

RV-6A 550 hrs

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