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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: VEDIO AND AUDIO RECORDING Reply with quote

Hi all
I am looking for a way to record my first flights and wondering how to get the audio to pick up more than just engine noise. There is a something called a "patch cord cockpit voice recorder"pn: 13-01456. Any body out there using this or have other ideas

thanks
Glenn


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: VEDIO AND AUDIO RECORDING Reply with quote

In a message dated 1/18/2009 9:24:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gljno10(at)hotmail.com writes:
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Glenn,
Here is a suggestion that I have used while doing phase one testing on several different experimental aircraft, including the 601XL that the EAA chapter in Williamsburg (Chapter 156) built. Get yourself a voice activated digital recorder and a lapel microphone. The one I have came from Radio Shack about four years ago. Place the lapel mic (they are very small) in one of the ear cups of your headset. Turn on the recorder in the voice activation mode and be sure the aircraft intercom is also on. Now anything that you hear in your headset will activate the digital recorder. I suggest you also "talk to yourself" to record any test data (engine data or flight data) that you want to record during the flight for later playback and test analysis.
And yes, there is also a patch cord adapter that we used in fighters (I flew F-4s for 28 years, so this was many years ago).  When we wanted to record an air to air engagement we carried a small tape recorder in the G suit pocket and turned on the tape recorder before each engagement. Being able to replay each engagement before the debriefing helped us remember specific things we wanted to debrief.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: VEDIO AND AUDIO RECORDING Reply with quote

Glenn,
Let me add one more comment to my last message since your subject line mentioned Video and audio recording. Of course, my previous comments had to do with audio recording. As to video recording, I recommend not trying to do any video recording if you are thinking about any kind of hand held camera. Your hands will be busy enough just flying the airplane during any testing. So keep the hands on the stick and throttle. Now if you have a helmet mounted camera or something that you can set up that you don't have to touch during the flight - OK.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: VEDIO AND AUDIO RECORDING Reply with quote

On Sunday 18 January 2009 20:18, GLJSOJ1 wrote:
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Hi all
I am looking for a way to record my first flights and wondering how to get
the audio to pick up more than just engine noise. There is a something
called a "patch cord cockpit voice recorder"pn: 13-01456. Any body out
there using this or have other ideas

I haven't looked for one in years, but at one time there was a pickup coil
used to record phone conversations. There was a suction cup on the end, which
you stuck to the telephone, and a plug on the other end that would go to a
recorder or microphone.

I'd think the thing would also work very well with a headset. It has the
advantage (since it was not a microphone, just a coil to pick up the magnetic
field) of not getting any stray background noise.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:34 am    Post subject: VEDIO AND AUDIO RECORDING Reply with quote

EAA Mag "Sport Pilot" has an article about just this subject. They recommend a lapel mic stuffed into one of the headset earpeices. Any camcorder will have the input slot for the mic jack.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: VEDIO AND AUDIO RECORDING Reply with quote

Thanks everyone

I just read the article in sport aviation and was really thinking that was the way to go. Does that also pick up when I key the mike button to transmit? If so that's perfect

I plan to hard mount the camera over the baggage area and turn it on before I start the engine and turn it off when I shut it down.
Thanks again

Glenn


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: VEDIO AND AUDIO RECORDING Reply with quote

Hi, Glenn.

When we needed cockpit audio for aviation marketing videos, that's exactly what we did. A small Radio Shack bullet mike taped into the earcup and plugged into our camera worked perfectly, getting both the radio transmissions and the attenuated cockpit background noise.

If you can hear yourself transmit via the comm radio's sidetone, it will be picked up by the mike as well.

Good luck!

Rick Lindstrom
First Light Media

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