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K Dilks

Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 108
Location: UK

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: Aileron gussets

Hi all , 

 maybe I am missing something here but is there any reason why not to fit the gussets on the out side of the skin? I would add 2 more rivets on the open sides to pull up the skins.

 I have seen this on big planes .

 Kev

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K Dilks

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron gussets

Nobody got an opinion on this? Amazing.

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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:30 am Post subject: Aileron gussets

Kevin

I put gussets on the outside. Real easy to do, looks O.K. But it is easy to open a couple of rivets and slip them under the skin and close it up also. I think it is worth doing no matter which way.

Al Rupp

New York



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alex_001

Joined: 14 Jan 2007
Posts: 61

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron gussets

i bonded the gusset and then used the rivits

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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject: Aileron gussets

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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: Aileron gussets

Sabrina,

I have the standard flex hinges. I used A5's on both the gussets, going through three thicknesses of metal I use A5's.

Al,

NY



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 Al, 

 

 Do you have piano hinge or flex hinge ailerons? 

 Did you add them per the Zenith plans aft of the aileron hinge or did you tie 

 the aft aileron hinge portion to the ribs? 

 

 Did you use A4 or AS5 rivets on the inboard aft attach rivet position? 


	




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alex_001

Joined: 14 Jan 2007
Posts: 61

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron gussets

sabrina



 i riveted on top as i did not want to take more parts apart as i have rtf xl

looks ok an is for sure a help



i work normaly with racecar design and there we bond about everything for various reasons so i also used structural 3M adisive and rivits ( when once the glue is completly hardend the gussets will be nearly impossible to remove only with a lot of heat)

alex_001

Joined: 14 Jan 2007
Posts: 61

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron gussets

sabrine,

please allow me a couple of weeks when i am back to the hangar as i am away for work and therefore cant take some pics but for sure i will do it when i am back.

or pls let me have your email adress if it is ok for you



thanks

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: Aileron gussets

Sabrina,

As you can see it would be just as easy to open a couple more rivets and slide them underneath,

it would be easier to pick up the rivet holes that way. You may have a stress point from the outboard end of the gusset where the wing skin bends down to the spar cap when the aileron flexes the skin in a parallel plane to the cap. I think it is minimal though.

Al Rupp

Lake Placid

New York

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alex_001

Joined: 14 Jan 2007
Posts: 61

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:50 am Post subject: Re: Aileron gussets

(at) Sabrina



Al pics are similar to mine, i can still post u some but i think you can see all at Al pics



i also got this mail from Nick Heintz  



......The recommend position of the gusset is underneath the top skin. 

Note: how the gusset overlaps the skin is not critical. On your aircraft, if you preferred, it would be acceptable to have it overlap on the outside.

Nick

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