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dougsire
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 Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject: Tensile Strength of AN470 solid rivets |
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I am working up a rivet strength comparison chart and am trying to find the tensile strength of AN470 1/8" and 5/32" solid aluminum rivets. I found the shear strength in the ZAC Construction Standards but haven't been able to track down tensile. Anyone have that handy?
Thanks,
Doug Sire
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: Tensile Strength of AN470 solid rivets |
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I did a Google search on "tensile strength of an470 rivet" and found
this site at the top of the list:
http://tinyurl.com/aj37tw
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I am working up a rivet strength comparison chart and am trying to
find the tensile strength of AN470 1/8" and 5/32" solid aluminum
rivets. I found the shear strength in the ZAC Construction
Standards but haven't been able to track down tensile. Anyone have
that handy?
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dougsire
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Tensile Strength of AN470 solid rivets |
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I forgot to mention that in my searches all I have found is a very high number (at least relative to others that I'm comparing against), such as 38,000 lbs. This must be an ultimate number whereas everything else I've found is in the few hundred lb range. Maybe these are "yield" strength? For example, the factory spec sheet for an Avex A5 rivet shows a tensile strength of 300 lbs.
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bryanmmartin
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: Tensile Strength of AN470 solid rivets |
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That 38,000 you found is given in pounds per square inch. If you
multiply that by the cross sectional area of the rivet, you'll get the
actual strength of that rivet. About 466 pounds for an 1/8" rivet.
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I forgot to mention that in my searches all I have found is a very
high number (at least relative to others that I'm comparing
against), such as 38,000 lbs. This must be an ultimate number
whereas everything else I've found is in the few hundred lb range.
Maybe these are "yield" strength? For example, the factory spec
sheet for an Avex A5 rivet shows a tensile strength of 300 lbs.
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bcchurch
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Tensile Strength of AN470 solid rivets |
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Doug,
Some confusion can creep in here. Strength can refer to the rivet material itself or the joint which the rivet forms.
Shear strength numbers I have seen appear to me to refer to strength of a joint (like a lap-shear joint). Tensile strength numbers (like the 38 ksi you mentioned) appear more like tensile strength of the rivet material.
Once you get your data, would you please post it here along with links to where the data was obtained? It would probably save some others a lot of time duplicating your efforts.
Regards,
Ben Church
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: Tensile Strength of AN470 solid rivets |
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Doug;
The 300 lb number is probably the clamping strength of the rivet whereas the 38,000 lb number is the yield strength of the aluminum.
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I forgot to mention that in my searches all I have found is a very high number (at least relative to others that I'm comparing against), such as 38,000 lbs. This must be an ultimate number whereas everything else I've found is in the few hundred lb range. Maybe these are "yield" strength? For example, the factory spec sheet for an Avex A5 rivet shows a tensile strength of 300 lbs.
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leinad
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Tensile Strength of AN470 solid rivets |
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Doug,
I've relied on the info from Aircraft Spruce. Here's an example:
""A" rivets are "soft". They are fabricated from 1100-grade aluminum and have a tensile strength of 16,000 PSI. "AD" rivets are fabricated from 2117 aluminum and heat treated to the T4 condition. They have a shear strength of 26,000 PSI and a tensile strength of 38,000 PSI.
I think you'll find the ZAC drawing indicate the stronger "AD" rivets.
Dan
| dougsire wrote: | I am working up a rivet strength comparison chart and am trying to find the tensile strength of AN470 1/8" and 5/32" solid aluminum rivets. I found the shear strength in the ZAC Construction Standards but haven't been able to track down tensile. Anyone have that handy?
Thanks,
Doug Sire
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