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n277dl

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 49
Location: Muscatine IA

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: OVHD console

Group...

   I'm debating the ovhd console that Stein is selling.  I'd just talked myself into it but just sat in the plane and I'm a little concerned with head room.  I'm 6'5, son 6'7... any of you that have installed the console had any issues with this... I'm not certain how deep the console is... appears to be a couple inches.



Thoughts???



Thanks,

Doug

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orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: Re: OVHD console

I have installed the AA overhead console and I believe Stein's is the same or very similar in shape.

From your email I am confused.  You are asking about head room and then  	  Quote: 	
		  I'm not certain how deep the console is... appears to be a couple inches. 

	
 Which dimensions are you looking for?  Pilots or passengers?  I can give you the dimensions of from the cabin top, inside, to the bottom of the console, giving you what is lost in head room in the center of the cabin.

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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: OVHD console

Doug,



I am 6'1" and have the Flightline AC overhead console. I can bump my  

headset on the overhead console switch panel when my seat is forward  

a couple of notches. I can also bump my head on the Blue Sky sun  

visor mounts. I do have my seat forward a couple of notches when  

flying. Can't reach the pedals otherwise. Now that is legroom!



David Maib

40559

On Feb 24, 2009, at 1:20 PM, n277dl wrote:






Group...

    I'm debating the ovhd console that Stein is selling.  I'd just  

talked myself into it but just sat in the plane and I'm a little  

concerned with head room.  I'm 6'5, son 6'7... any of you that have  

installed the console had any issues with this... I'm not certain how  

deep the console is... appears to be a couple inches.



Thoughts???



Thanks,

Doug



--------

Doug

&quot;Fools&quot; are always more creative than process people and  

will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 31840#231840

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

saolesen(at)sirentel.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: OVHD console

Doug,



I'm 6'4" and I have about 2-2.5" clearance with my seat position.  I  

was looking at this the other day and I was glad there was no  

console.  Best thing to do is to try out a seat position and measure  

to the the cabin cover.



Sheldon Olesen

N475PV  out of phase 1

On Feb 24, 2009, at 12:20 PM, n277dl wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Group...

    I'm debating the ovhd console that Stein is selling.  I'd just  

 talked myself into it but just sat in the plane and I'm a little  

 concerned with head room.  I'm 6'5, son 6'7... any of you that have  

 installed the console had any issues with this... I'm not certain  

 how deep the console is... appears to be a couple inches.



 Thoughts???



 Thanks,

 Doug



 --------

 Doug

 &quot;Fools&quot; are always more creative than process people and  

 will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 31840#231840

AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: OVHD console

As long as you're not sitting on your sweetie's lap (on the hump) as she

flies the outer seat it allows a pretty good head rock 'n roll in

turbulence with a set of Dave Clark's on.



John at 6'3" and shrinking



do not archive



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: OVHD console

I agree with Sheldon, I'd try a seat position and measure it out.

I know that I'm only 6'1" or a tad more, and I come pretty close

to the cabin top.  Do the test with a headset on, and in the

seat position you expect.  When it's cold out in the winter and

the seat foam is still stiff, I hit the cabin top until the foam

relaxes.  At that point I feel like I have good headroom.

If the overhead console doesn't cover the area directly above

your head, you would probably be OK.  But if it fits right above

your head you would do well to measure it out well first.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

Sheldon Olesen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Doug,

 I'm 6'4" and I have about 2-2.5" clearance with my seat position.  I was 

 looking at this the other day and I was glad there was no console.  Best 

 thing to do is to try out a seat position and measure to the the cabin 

 cover.

 Sheldon Olesen

 N475PV  out of phase 1

 On Feb 24, 2009, at 12:20 PM, n277dl wrote:

> 

>

> Group...

>    I'm debating the ovhd console that Stein is selling.  I'd just 

> talked myself into it but just sat in the plane and I'm a little 

> concerned with head room.  I'm 6'5, son 6'7... any of you that have 

> installed the console had any issues with this... I'm not certain how 

> deep the console is... appears to be a couple inches.

>

> Thoughts???

>

> Thanks,

> Doug

>

> --------

> Doug

> &quot;Fools&quot; are always more creative than process people and 

> will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 31840#231840

>

>

n277dl

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 49
Location: Muscatine IA

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: OVHD console

Thanks for the input.  I have the pilot's seat in the plane and put the foam in last weekend to check legroom for the control cables.  So at lunch today, I crawled in and sat on the hard as a rock foam (Iowa, cold garage).  Any of you that are above average height will recognize the "how many fingers stacked on top of each other, on top of my head, will fit between me and whatever is over me" exercise.  



The answer was only a couple fingers between me and the lowest part of the canopy.  The low part was located towards the door so the ovhd console "might" fit as it's in the center and there is more room there. That's when I started questioning the sanity of the ovhd console for me. 

 

The console's sure do look nice and would be great for getting lights, vents and maybe gps antenna wires but I hate bumping my head.  I already wear the clarity aloft in-ear headset in the -7A to get a little more head room.  



So.... maybe back to the drawing board and only mount something forward to mount map lights.... 



Decisions, decisions...  



Doug...

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lbgjb10

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Posts: 67

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: OVHD console

it also makes a big difference as to how you position the seat back.  If you sit VERY erect, the head room is less, but not as comfortable for me flying.  One 'notch' angled back on seat back (and I have the seat itself at least a couple notches forward) gives me lotsa more head room--6-1+ using large David Clarks and I don't hit.  larry

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Larry and Gayle N104LG

jeff(at)westcottpress.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: OVHD console

I'm 6' 2" and, after my ride in Dave Saylor's plane, am certain  

there's not room for me and the OVHD console

On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:16 PM, n277dl wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Thanks for the input.  I have the pilot's seat in the plane and put  

 the foam in last weekend to check legroom for the control cables.   

 So at lunch today, I crawled in and sat on the hard as a rock foam  

 (Iowa, cold garage).  Any of you that are above average height will  

 recognize the "how many fingers stacked on top of each other, on  

 top of my head, will fit between me and whatever is over me" exercise.



 The answer was only a couple fingers between me and the lowest part  

 of the canopy.  The low part was located towards the door so the  

 ovhd console "might" fit as it's in the center and there is more  

 room there. That's when I started questioning the sanity of the  

 ovhd console for me.



 The console's sure do look nice and would be great for getting  

 lights, vents and maybe gps antenna wires but I hate bumping my  

 head.  I already wear the clarity aloft in-ear headset in the -7A  

 to get a little more head room.



 So.... maybe back to the drawing board and only mount something  

 forward to mount map lights....



 Decisions, decisions...



 Doug...



 --------

 Doug

 &quot;Fools&quot; are always more creative than process people and  

 will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 31899#231899

bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: OVHD console

There are multiple variables in play here - not only are the front seats

adjustable fore/aft, you can also install the rudder pedals forward or

aft.  Because the front seat rails are on a slope (up as you move

forward), having the seat more aft gives you more headroom.  While maybe

a bit counterintuitive, if you're tall consider mounting the pedals aft

so you'll have the seat in a more aft position.  Most people jump to

installing them in the forward position to give more legroom.  Not sure

how tall a person would have to be to actually NEED the pedals installed

forward but my guess would be around 6'4".  



As a datapoint, I'm 6'1" and have the pedals mounted in the forward

position.  I fly with the seat in the 3rd notch forward from the aft

stop.  I have an OH console and no headroom issues wearing Lightspeed

Zulu headsets.



Bob

N442PM (flying)



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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: OVHD console

EUREKA !



At last - a good reason to feel good about being short!



Deems Davis # 406

'Its all done....Its just not put together'

http://deemsrv10.com/

and for Mike's benefit



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effectus(at)rogers.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: OVHD console

We have the cold hard seat thing beat!!!



Vertical Power Unit + Seat Heaters will allow for a comfortable bottom 

temperature by the time you actually get into the plane.



The Vertical Power unit is programmable and allows you to turn on the 

seats and lights while you are in the pre-start mode.



Dave



Jeff Carpenter wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I'm 6' 2" and, after my ride in Dave Saylor's plane, am certain there's 

 not room for me and the OVHD console

 

 

 On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:16 PM, n277dl wrote:

 

> 

>

> Thanks for the input.  I have the pilot's seat in the plane and put 

> the foam in last weekend to check legroom for the control cables.  So 

> at lunch today, I crawled in and sat on the hard as a rock foam (Iowa, 

> cold garage).  Any of you that are above average height will recognize 

> the "how many fingers stacked on top of each other, on top of my head, 

> will fit between me and whatever is over me" exercise.

>

> The answer was only a couple fingers between me and the lowest part of 

> the canopy.  The low part was located towards the door so the ovhd 

> console "might" fit as it's in the center and there is more room 

> there. That's when I started questioning the sanity of the ovhd 

> console for me.

>

> The console's sure do look nice and would be great for getting lights, 

> vents and maybe gps antenna wires but I hate bumping my head.  I 

> already wear the clarity aloft in-ear headset in the -7A to get a 

> little more head room.

>

> So.... maybe back to the drawing board and only mount something 

> forward to mount map lights....

>

> Decisions, decisions...

>

> Doug...

>

> --------

> Doug

> &quot;Fools&quot; are always more creative than process people and 

> will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 31899#231899

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


	


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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: OVHD console

For what it's worth, I would love to have an overhead console

over the rear seat...maybe up to the thick area of the cabin

top.  From there, if I just had a wire chase forward, and only

a console for the front 12" of the cabin top, I think that

would be good.  It would be nice to have rear seat vents up

there, and a way to run wires forward, and then a front

console for panel lights.  But, I'd be happy doing without

the bulk of the console directly above the heads.  So I

don't know that I'd abandon the whole concept, but being

as tall as you are, you may want to make adjustments to

how protruding it is.  You really will probably want SOME

form of lighting console on the very front.  Also, if you

plan ahead, you can run wires down the support tube...just

not many of them.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

n277dl wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Thanks for the input.  I have the pilot's seat in the plane and put

 the foam in last weekend to check legroom for the control cables.  So

 at lunch today, I crawled in and sat on the hard as a rock foam

 (Iowa, cold garage).  Any of you that are above average height will

 recognize the "how many fingers stacked on top of each other, on top

 of my head, will fit between me and whatever is over me" exercise.

 

 The answer was only a couple fingers between me and the lowest part

 of the canopy.  The low part was located towards the door so the ovhd

 console "might" fit as it's in the center and there is more room

 there. That's when I started questioning the sanity of the ovhd

 console for me.

 

 The console's sure do look nice and would be great for getting

 lights, vents and maybe gps antenna wires but I hate bumping my head.

 I already wear the clarity aloft in-ear headset in the -7A to get a

 little more head room.

 

 So.... maybe back to the drawing board and only mount something

 forward to mount map lights....

 

 Decisions, decisions...

 

 Doug...

 

 -------- Doug &quot;Fools&quot; are always more creative than process

 people and will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of

 processes.

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 31899#231899

jcumins(at)jcis.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: OVHD console

Demms I am with you.  HEHHE.



Off to Salem Oregon in the Rain will try and stop and visit Vans if I get

time Friday.



John G. Cumins

President

 

JC'S Interactive Systems

2499 B1 Martin Rd

Fairfield Ca 94533

707-425-7100

707-425-7576 Fax

 

Your Total Technology Solution Provider



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cjay

Joined: 15 Dec 2007
Posts: 53

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: OVHD console

 	  effectus(at)rogers.com wrote: 	
		  We have the cold hard seat thing beat!!!



Vertical Power Unit + Seat Heaters will allow for a comfortable bottom 

temperature by the time you actually get into the plane.



The Vertical Power unit is programmable and allows you to turn on the 

seats and lights while you are in the pre-start mode.



Dave

	




Yea, cool that you used your battery to heat your seats while you sit there and enjoy it while you can't crank the engine!

robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:37 pm Post subject: OVHD console

Deems, no need to feel bad about the difference of 1 foot AGL. Heck even

your WAAS isn't that accurate. 



Robin

Please Do Not Archive

steveg(at)redmondair.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: OVHD console

For a pre-fabricated overhead console go to the following link:



http://www.redmondair.com/RV-order_forms/RV10_Overhead_Console-OF.pdf



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