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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: stick grips

I'm wanting to order my stick grips.

I looked at MAC and Infinity and tried to find the CH sticks with no 

luck (unless I take up computer gaming!!!)

So, I have some questions for those who are flying:



1 what stick grip did you order ..... and why?   URL???



2 what functions do you control from the stick??



3 What functions do you wish you had provided for on the stick??? 



4 Now that you have experience with your grip ..... would you do it 

again, or go a different route???  Why?



5 Was price high on your list of importance???

egohr1

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 38
Location: Oklahoma City

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: stick grips

Ch grips are now at Tostens. http://tostenmanufacturing.com/



I am not yet flying, but I just installed these a couple of weeks ago and they look and feel good to me.

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eric gohr
EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu

rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: stick grips

G'day Linn, FYI the CH stick grips can be viewed at tostenmanufacturing.com and you can contact Kevin Willianson via email at acgrips(at)yahoo.com (acgrips(at)yahoo.com).

  

 I purchased the CS-8's recently as I found them to be comfortable; useable from the left and right handed positions; they have a comfortable hand rest on the grip; they feature more than enough switches on the grip and I feel that they're value for money.

  

 Regards

  

 Patrick Pulis

 #40299   VH-XPP

 Adelaide, South Australia



 

   From: linn <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Thursday, 26 February, 2009 9:59:31 AM

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--> RV10-List message posted by: linn <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)>



I'm wanting to order my stick grips.

I looked at MAC and Infinity and tried to find the CH sticks with no luck (unless I take up computer gaming!!!)

So, I have some questions for those who are flying:



1 what stick grip did you order ..... and why?  URL???



2 what functions do you control from the stick??



3 What functions do you wish you had provided for on the stick??? 



4 Now that you have  experience with your grip ..... would you do it again, or go a different route???  Why?



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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject: stick grips

Thanks Eric!!!

 Linn

 

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Ch grips are now at Tostens. http://tostenmanufacturing.com/



I am not yet flying, but I just installed these a couple of weeks ago and they look and feel good to me.



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eric gohr

EGOHR86(at)alumni.carnegiemellon.edu (EGOHR86(at)alumni.carnegiemellon.edu)





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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:27 pm Post subject: stick grips

Thanks Patrick!

 Linn

 

 Patrick Pulis wrote: [quote]         G'day Linn, FYI the CH stick grips can be viewed at tostenmanufacturing.com and you can contact Kevin Willianson via email at acgrips(at)yahoo.com (acgrips(at)yahoo.com).

    

   I purchased the CS-8's recently as I found them to be comfortable; useable from the left and right handed positions; they have a comfortable hand rest on the grip; they feature more than enough switches on the grip and I feel that they're value for money.

    

   Regards

    

   Patrick Pulis

   #40299   VH-XPP

   Adelaide, South Australia

   

   

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 I'm wanting to order my stick grips.

 I looked at MAC and Infinity and tried to find the CH sticks with no luck (unless I take up computer gaming!!!)

 So, I have some questions for those who are flying:

   

 1 what stick grip did you order ..... and why?  URL???

   

 2 what functions do you control from the stick??

   

 3 What functions do you wish you had provided for on the stick??? 

   

 4 Now that you have experience with your grip ..... would you do it again, or go a different route???  Why?

   

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: stick grips

1.  Infinity, fighter pilot want a be I guess.....looked comfortable and had

different switch positions



2.  AP  Disconnect, Trim (Al and EL), Flaps, PTT, Feq flip flop, Ident.



3.  Comm switching from the audio panel



4.  I would do it again but I would not do the ident and would do the audio

panel switching.  I will be able to easily change that but have put it off

to next annual....ready to get the plane back in the air.



5.  Price was not high on my list.



I find the grip very comfortable......looks cool also.



Rene' Felker

RV-10 N423CF Flying

801-721-6080

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: stick grips

Sorry for the lasts two posts .... the thank yous were supposed to go 

direct!!

Linn

DO NOT ARCHIVE!!!!

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 454
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: stick grips

1. No particular reason, other than they looked like the grips in the  

Army helicopters I flew and I liked and felt comfortable with those.

2. Pitch trim, aileron trim, rudder trim, autopilot disconnect/ 

control wheel steering, Vertical Power "acknowledge", and com 1 freq.  

flip-flop.

3. Happy with my set up.

4. Again, happy with my choice

5. No.



David Maib

40559

flying.

On Feb 25, 2009, at 6:29 PM, linn wrote:






I'm wanting to order my stick grips.

I looked at MAC and Infinity and tried to find the CH sticks with no  

luck (unless I take up computer gaming!!!)

So, I have some questions for those who are flying:



1 what stick grip did you order ..... and why?   URL???



2 what functions do you control from the stick??



3 What functions do you wish you had provided for on the stick??? 



4 Now that you have experience with your grip ..... would you do it  

again, or go a different route???  Why?



5 Was price high on your list of importance???

_________________
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

pascal(at)rv10builder.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: stick grips

I gather your talking about the infinity grips- right?.. they are about as 

close as I recall to the UH-1 grips.



--------------------------------------------------

From: "David Maib" <dmaib(at)mac.com>

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:46 PM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: stick grips



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 1. No particular reason, other than they looked like the grips in the 

 Army helicopters I flew and I liked and felt comfortable with those.

 2. Pitch trim, aileron trim, rudder trim, autopilot disconnect/ control 

 wheel steering, Vertical Power "acknowledge", and com 1 freq.  flip-flop.

 3. Happy with my set up.

 4. Again, happy with my choice

 5. No.



 David Maib

 40559

 flying.

 On Feb 25, 2009, at 6:29 PM, linn wrote:



 



 I'm wanting to order my stick grips.

 I looked at MAC and Infinity and tried to find the CH sticks with no  luck 

 (unless I take up computer gaming!!!)

 So, I have some questions for those who are flying:



 1 what stick grip did you order ..... and why?   URL???



 2 what functions do you control from the stick??



 3 What functions do you wish you had provided for on the stick??? 



 4 Now that you have experience with your grip ..... would you do it 

 again, or go a different route???  Why?



 5 Was price high on your list of importance???

toaster73(at)embarqmail.c
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: stick grips

Have not flown but I just installed Infinity and like the look and feel. 

I have:

coolie hat trim

left toggle - up com1 flip flop and down for com 2 flip flop

right toggle -moves left to page EFIS 1 and move right for EFIS 2 paging

middle button is A/P disconnect

Pinky is com 1 to com 2 swap

trigger is PTT



Playing around in the plane I think I am gonna like it.



Chris

#40072

"The Perpetual Builder since October 2003"

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gengrumpy(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: stick grips

I love my Infinity grips and wouldn't trade them.



PTT, switch radios, silence voice warnings, disengage autopilot, 2  

axis trim......haven't gotten the ident function to work yet!



grumpy - N184JM



do not archive

On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:29 PM, linn wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I'm wanting to order my stick grips.

 I looked at MAC and Infinity and tried to find the CH sticks with no  

 luck (unless I take up computer gaming!!!)

 So, I have some questions for those who are flying:



 1 what stick grip did you order ..... and why?   URL???



 2 what functions do you control from the stick??



 3 What functions do you wish you had provided for on the stick??? 



 4 Now that you have experience with your grip ..... would you do it  

 again, or go a different route???  Why?



 5 Was price high on your list of importance???

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: stick grips

Same here, the Infinity's seem really durable overall, and I like

having all the buttons.



PTT

Flip Flops:  Com1=switch up  COM2=switch down

EFIS screen mode change

Silence Voice Alerts (this is a critical one)

AP Disengage/Control Wheel steering

Coolie: Aileron Trim + Elevator trim



Wouldn't change a thing.  Didn't care about price,

just shopped all the vendors at OSH in 2005, and bought

the one that looked like it would last the longest.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying



Miller John wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I love my Infinity grips and wouldn't trade them.

 

 PTT, switch radios, silence voice warnings, disengage autopilot, 2 axis 

 trim......haven't gotten the ident function to work yet!

 

 grumpy - N184JM

 

 do not archive

 

 

 On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:29 PM, linn wrote:

 

> 

>

> I'm wanting to order my stick grips.

> I looked at MAC and Infinity and tried to find the CH sticks with no 

> luck (unless I take up computer gaming!!!)

> So, I have some questions for those who are flying:

>

> 1 what stick grip did you order ..... and why?   URL???

>

> 2 what functions do you control from the stick??

>

> 3 What functions do you wish you had provided for on the stick??? 

>

> 4 Now that you have experience with your grip ..... would you do it 

> again, or go a different route???  Why?

>

> 5 Was price high on your list of importance???

>

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 454
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: stick grips

Yep! I also flew the OH-58 and the CH-54 and I seem to recall the  

grips were all somewhat similar.

I also have the trigger as PTT.

On Feb 25, 2009, at 9:43 PM, pascal wrote:






I gather your talking about the infinity grips- right?.. they are  

about as close as I recall to the UH-1 grips.



--------------------------------------------------

From: "David Maib" <dmaib(at)mac.com>

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:46 PM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: stick grips



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 1. No particular reason, other than they looked like the grips in  

 the Army helicopters I flew and I liked and felt comfortable with  

 those.

 2. Pitch trim, aileron trim, rudder trim, autopilot disconnect/  

 control wheel steering, Vertical Power "acknowledge", and com 1  

 freq.  flip-flop.

 3. Happy with my set up.

 4. Again, happy with my choice

 5. No.



 David Maib

 40559

 flying.

 On Feb 25, 2009, at 6:29 PM, linn wrote:



 



 I'm wanting to order my stick grips.

 I looked at MAC and Infinity and tried to find the CH sticks with  

 no  luck (unless I take up computer gaming!!!)

 So, I have some questions for those who are flying:



 1 what stick grip did you order ..... and why?   URL???



 2 what functions do you control from the stick??



 3 What functions do you wish you had provided for on the stick??? 



 4 Now that you have experience with your grip ..... would you do it  

 again, or go a different route???  Why?



 5 Was price high on your list of importance???

_________________
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: stick grips

Many medical professionals say that during long flights it is important to moves ones body many times to avoid blood and lymph fluid pooling C blood clots C stroke or heart attack. With so many functions mounted on the control stick C it does seem extremely comfortable C like having the television remote in hand while being a couch patato during college and NFL weekends C but this may not be so good for the body. May also be a source of confusion in remembering what is what.

  

 Then there is the inadvertent activation of a switch by clothing a clipboard or other item. 

  

 There was a story about a glider pilot flying a Stemme motor glider who was urinating into a bag C focusing so intently on the aim of his unit that he was unaware that he was down trimming the glider and it was a near disaster and fortunately only resulted in urine all over the canopy and cockpit and not his body Cplane and urine all over the rocks below. 

  

 Anyone see the movie C Walli. Thinking about the human population in space on their automatic chairs with their 40oz big gulps at hand. Life looked so easy and (uninteresting).

  

 Sorry couldn't resist the post.

  

 Wish I could be building today C got to work to earn the $$$ C atleast still doing that.

  

 John G.

 

 Do Not Archive

  

  

[quote] From: rene(at)felker.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: stick grips

 Date: Wed C 25 Feb 2009 17:27:08 -0700

 

 --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene(at)felker.com>

 

 1. Infinity C fighter pilot want a be I guess.....looked comfortable and had

 different switch positions

 

 2. AP Disconnect C Trim (Al and EL) C Flaps C PTT C Feq flip flop C Ident.

 

 3. Comm switching from the audio panel

 

 4. I would do it again but I would not do the ident and would do the audio

 panel switching. I will be able to easily change that but have put it off

 to next annual....ready to get the plane back in the air.

 

 5. Price was not high on my list.

 

 I find the grip very comfortable......looks cool also.

 

 Rene' Felker

 RV-10 N423CF Flying

 801-721-6080

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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: stick grips

Infinity grips for me too. Not that I wouldn’t like one of the other brands but I started with them on my -4, then two on my 6A now two more for the -10. Sure glad I don’t have to place a pair in the rear seats. One more going to go in the 8A. Darn that's two more for the 8A. Grrrrr  

Note I provide full or near full function to the Co-Pilot's side with a switch to disable all Co-Pilot stick functions.  

   

<![if !supportLists]>·         <![endif]>PTT,  

<![if !supportLists]>·         <![endif]>AP Disconnect  

<![if !supportLists]>·         <![endif]>Trim  

<![if !supportLists]>·         <![endif]>Flaps (momentary down, full up) [yes I like]  

<![if !supportLists]>·         <![endif]>Flip Flop (first time but I think I am gunna like it too)  

<![if !supportLists]>·         <![endif]>BRS (optional)  

   

Robin  

   

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Dave(at)AirCraftersLLC.co
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: stick grips

<![if !supportLists]><![endif]><![if !supportLists]><![endif]><![if !supportLists]><![endif]><![if !supportLists]><![endif]><![if !supportLists]><![endif]><![if !supportLists]><![endif]>  I used Van's wood grips because I think the  wood looks kind of classy, in moderation.

  

 I put their PTT in front, AP disconnect and  Van's trim on top in the supplied cover plate.

  

 After about a year I had lost both little  button caps on top of the AP disconnects.  Vans sells a rubber cap  replacement for about $9 that works well.  I looked all over the place for  a better price but no joy.  Seemed like a pretty simple part, especially  here close to Silcone Valley.  Not.

  

 I wish I had put the trim switch in a  different part of the grip cover.   Where the trim is now, it takes two  hands to fly and trim on take-off if  my left thumb is trimming nose down.  With my  left hand on the grip and the stick needing forward pressure, my left thumb  rises too high to push on the back part of the grip, so I have to resort to  pushing with my right hand while lefty does the trimming.   I've learned to be very careful to get the trim right before take-off, but  a few  of the  first departures were interesting.

  

 On a recent customer's RV8, we installed  Vans grips and trim switch, but this time with the trim switch near  the  top of the  cover  plate, where my AP disconnect is  located.  That works much better.

  

 I couldn't bear to use the 2-lb. (OK, maybe  5 oz.) steel collar supplied with Van's grips.  I got a similar  aluminum part from McMaster.  For $160 I think Vans should spring for the  lighter part . 

  

 Dave Saylor

 AirCrafters LLC

 140 Aviation Way

 Watsonville, CA 

 831-722-9141

 831-750-0284 CL

 www.AirCraftersLLC.com

  

 Flying, 330  hours

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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: stick grips

I'm installing the CH/Tosten.  I chose them over the Infinity because I 

wanted fewer switches.  Specifically I didn't plan to put flaps on the 

stick.



Fit and finish is great. 



The rotation of the grip is easily adjustable.   The design of the grip 

and it's rotation feature makes it seem reasonable to fly it with the 

grip free to rotate, making it easy and comfortable to fly with either 

hand.  Has anyone done this or have any experience with it?



In any case, I'd make the same decision again but I have no meaningful 

experience with the product.

nukeflyboy

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 162
Location: Granbury, TX

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:42 am Post subject: Re: stick grips

I am using the Infinities but have no flying time with them.  Switch setup will be the same as Tim's since following his recommendations is a good rule of thumb.



If you get a form fitting grip like the Infinities, be sure to "clock" them inboard about 15 degrees when you mount them - don't mount them straight up.  This will keep your wrist in line with your arm as it lies across your lap.  If you mount it straight your wrist will be bent back in an uncomfortable position.



do not archive

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Dave Moore
RV-6 built and sold
RV-10 built and flying

robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: stick grips

I clock mine nearly 45 degrees. It takes a considerable turn to get them

at the correct and natural angle for how your arm and hand rest. It's

not hard to figure out what angle you need, just place your seat(s) in

and see where you hand naturally falls.



Robin



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