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 Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: Fueling |
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I carry mogas to the airport and put it in my airplane through a "Mr. Funnel".
I has a screen that stops water, as well as any debris.
Hugh Sontag
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N1BZRich(at)aol.com writes:
No, Doug, I have never used anything but aviation fuel in any of my
airplanes. To me the extra trouble you have to go through to get it
to the airport and the worry that it might have ethanol in it is
just not worth the potential money saved. And it is getting almost
impossible to find auto fuel without ethanol. So I just call the
truck or pull up to the self serve pump at the airport if they have
one.
Buz,
I think your strategy for fueling is a good one. But not all of us
have hangars at three airports and a fuel truck to tap!!
I think one of the appeals of either the Lightning or SkyRanger is
the ability to take a couple of 5 gal gas cans in your trunk and
fill em up on your way to the airport. You get nice fresh gas (
some avgas is getting long in the tooth due to lack of sales) and
cheap too. If you are careful, you can avoid getting dirt or crud
in the cans.
When you get to the Airport, just dump the cans in.... one in each
wing! Unless you will not have a passenger, then dump most in the
right tank! That gives you enough for a calm flight somewhere for a
meal and back. Or enough to make a couple goof-off flights if you
are there all day. If you happened to go further to a real
airport, you can always top off with some 100LL to make a nice blend.
Wipe her down, put her away and throw the gas cans back in your
trunk. it probably cost about $20 in fuel. Gives you the feeling
of frugality in a belt-tightening economy.
The versatility and economy of a Lightning means you can fly off a
hard surface with a fuel truck, or carry gas cans to a grass strip.
Frequent changing of the fuel filters and frequent draining of the
low points, particularly at the gascolater, should handle fuel
contamination concerns.
It's all good.
Doug Koenigsberg
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:43 am Post subject: Fueling |
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In a message dated 2/28/2009 9:18:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, fly.lightning(at)gmail.com writes:
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I carry mogas to the airport and put it in my airplane through a "Mr. Funnel".
I has a screen that stops water, as well as any debris.
Hugh Sontag
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Even better yet!!
Doug
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: Fueling |
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You do have to be careful though. Depending on which airport you are at you might not be able to bring in your own fuel. If you're at a grass strip it's pretty much a sure thing. Small airports are usually pretty good C but mid-sized airports and large airports it is generally a no-no and they can slap you with a hefty fine. Smyrna is a good example of a nice airport C not huge C but an old military base that is a Class D airport where you can't truck in your own gas. Sometimes it is due to an agreement with FBO's on the field and other times it has to do with the insurance. (they might not pay if somebody is fueling a plane and it catches it and other aircraft on fire) I think maybe it was Moontown? where an airplane caught on fire in the T hangars and burned up a few before they were able to stop the progression. Just something to take into consideration when you pick a place to hangar your aircraft. For some it may be worth the extra cost to never have to worry about fueling their own aircraft. For others they're going to need the ability to put mogas in their aircraft. Don't get stuck in a lease and then find out that you don't have what you thought you did. Brian W.
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Date: Sat C 28 Feb 2009 09:42:11 -0500
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I carry mogas to the airport and put it in my airplane through a "Mr. Funnel".
I has a screen that stops water C as well as any debris.
Hugh Sontag
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Even better yet!!
Doug
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:47 am Post subject: Fueling |
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Hi Doug and Hugh,
Good points and info on auto fuel usage. Actually, I did occasionally use it in my Cessna 170 a few times many years ago, but I had an STC for doing that and also used a water filter / screen funnel like Hugh is talking about. No problems, but never did take it to high altitude on a hot day. Of course that was the days before ethanol in auto fuel. But I am wondering if you are able to find auto fuel without ethanol in today's world without really searching it out. That is a problem here in VA. Also, are you checking for any ethanol or the amount of ethanol by using one of the EAA's alcohol test kits? Just curious.
Buz
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: Fueling |
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I've been buying premium auto fuel without ethanol, which is
available at a select few gas stations here in Minnesota.
I don't test for ethanol in this fuel.
I learned this summer that Phil Lockwood is saying that there isn't a
problem with using 10% ethanol in Rotax 912 engines. I don't have a
Lightning at this point, I have a Tornado II with a 912.
Lockwood is the biggest repair center for Rotax engines in the U.S.
I'm thinking that I may stop buying the premium auto fuel and just
burn ethanol-blended gasoline. On the other hand, the cost
differential is only 25 cents, so it's not a big deal either way for
me.
Hugh
| Quote: | Hi Doug and Hugh,
Good points and info on auto fuel usage. Actually, I did
occasionally use it in my Cessna 170 a few times many years ago, but
I had an STC for doing that and also used a water filter / screen
funnel like Hugh is talking about. No problems, but never did take
it to high altitude on a hot day. Of course that was the days
before ethanol in auto fuel. But I am wondering if you are able to
find auto fuel without ethanol in today's world without really
searching it out. That is a problem here in VA. Also, are you
checking for any ethanol or the amount of ethanol by using one of
the EAA's alcohol test kits? Just curious.
Buz
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