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Radioflyer

Joined: 04 Feb 2009
Posts: 43
Location: Boston

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: Anyone with a KR22 Marker Beacon pinout?

Can anyone point me to some KR-22 marker beacon receiver pinout info? I think I can figure out the antenna, power and audio out pins, but I would appreciate some confirmation before proceeding, just to make sure I get the grounds correct.



--Jose

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: Anyone with a KR22 Marker Beacon pinout?

At 09:40 AM 3/16/2009, you wrote:

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Can anyone point me to some KR-22 marker beacon receiver pinout 

info? I think I can figure out the antenna, power and audio out 

pins, but I would appreciate some confirmation before proceeding, 

just to make sure I get the grounds correct.



--Jose


	


  Sorry, that's not in my library of

  radio wiring information

        Bob . . .



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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: Anyone with a KR22 Marker Beacon pinout?

Good Morning Bob and Jose,

  

  

 For flight within the USA, unless Jose wants the marker beacon for reasons  of nostalgia, I would suggest not installing it in the aircraft.

  

 Marker beacons are being phased out. I know of no approach in the US  National Airspace System that requires the use of a marker beacon.

  

 I suppose it is possible that some of the other countries around the planet  Earth have different rules. Any idea where Jose is operating?

  

 Happy  Skies



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West 86th  Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22   

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Can anyone point me to some    KR-22 marker beacon receiver pinout 

info? I think I can figure out the    antenna, power and audio out 

pins, but I would appreciate some    confirmation before proceeding, 

just to make sure I get the grounds    correct.



--Jose


	


  Sorry, that's not in my library    of

  radio wiring information

           Bob . . .



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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone with a KR22 Marker Beacon pinout?

Hi All,

I'm in the process of cleaning up the panel on my airplane. The panel is IFR equipped and has a marker beacon receiver. I'm not yet IFR rated, but I didn't want to diminish my IFR panel. I was not aware that the marker beacon receiver was no longer part of the IFR procedures here in the US. The plane only flies in the US. So what's the story...Should I just remove the unit?

--Jose

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: Anyone with a KR22 Marker Beacon pinout?

Good Evening Jose,

  

 That is undoubtedly a controversial discussion. 

  

 My inclination is to eliminate the marker beacon receiver, though, just  like many other folks, I like the friendly tones of the marker beacons when they  are being flown over. It is comforting and familiar.  

  

 Up until a few years ago, the marker beacon was a required portion of the  ILS system. That is no longer the case.  The marker beacon is NOT a  required portion of the ILS and the minima does not change if you are or are not  equipped with such a receiver. 

  

 To my knowledge, there is only one non precision approach in the USA that  has a step down fix based on crossing a marker. That is the circling approach  from the (LOC-D, KSEE) localizer approach at Gillespie Field, San Diego, CA. The  last time I checked, that marker was out of service awaiting parts for a repair.  If you are equipped with an IFR approved GPS and a current datacard, you can  check passing over the marker beacon utilizing the GPS and use the minima  associated with that marker.

  

 I would save the space, power, weight, and cost by leaving the marker  beacon off the airplane.

  

 Does anyone on the list know of any other approach where any lower minima  can be flown by having a marker beacon available?

  

 Happy  Skies



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West 86th  Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22   

  In a message dated 3/18/2009 9:38:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  skyeyecorp(at)airpost.net writes:

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		  Hi    All,

I'm in the process of cleaning up the panel on my airplane. The panel    is IFR equipped and has a marker beacon receiver. I'm not yet IFR rated, but I    didn't want to diminish my IFR panel. I was not aware that the marker beacon    receiver was no longer part of the IFR procedures here in the US. The plane    only flies in the US. So what's the story...Should I just remove the    unit?

--Jose



	




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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: Anyone with a KR22 Marker Beacon pinout?

Good Evening Once Again Jose,

  

 On reading my last post to you, I think I did not state the case very well.  

  

 If you do not have an IFR GPS approved for at least enroute and terminal  purposes, there may be a few more non precision approaches where a marker beacon  may allow a lower minima. 

  

 As I said before, the normal ILS no longer requires a marker beacon. There  may be such a requirement for some Category II and III approaches and there are  a few non precision approaches where a marker beacon will allow a step down with  lower minima. 

  

 The point I wish to make is that at those very few places where the marker  beacon does provide for a step down, the GPS can be used in lieu of the marker  beacon. Those spots are few and far between.  The beacons are being removed  as other fixes are found for those step down fixes.

  

 Make any sense at all?

  

 Happy  Skies



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West 86th  Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22   

  In a message dated 3/18/2009 10:25:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  BobsV35B(at)aol.com writes:

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		     Good Evening Jose,

    

   That is undoubtedly a controversial discussion. 

    

   My inclination is to eliminate the marker beacon receiver, though, just    like many other folks, I like the friendly tones of the marker beacons when    they are being flown over. It is comforting and familiar.  

    

   Up until a few years ago, the marker beacon was a required portion of the    ILS system. That is no longer the case.  The marker beacon is NOT a    required portion of the ILS and the minima does not change if you are or are    not equipped with such a receiver. 

    

   To my knowledge, there is only one non precision approach in the USA that    has a step down fix based on crossing a marker. That is the circling approach    from the (LOC-D, KSEE) localizer approach at Gillespie Field, San Diego, CA.    The last time I checked, that marker was out of service awaiting parts for a    repair. If you are equipped with an IFR approved GPS and a current datacard,    you can check passing over the marker beacon utilizing the GPS and use the    minima associated with that marker.

    

   I would save the space, power, weight, and cost by leaving the marker    beacon off the airplane.

    

   Does anyone on the list know of any other approach where any lower minima    can be flown by having a marker beacon available?

    

   Happy    Skies



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West    86th Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman    N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22     

      In a message dated 3/18/2009 9:38:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,    skyeyecorp(at)airpost.net writes:

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		  Hi      All,

I'm in the process of cleaning up the panel on my airplane. The      panel is IFR equipped and has a marker beacon receiver. I'm not yet IFR      rated, but I didn't want to diminish my IFR panel. I was not aware that the      marker beacon receiver was no longer part of the IFR procedures here in the      US. The plane only flies in the US. So what's the story...Should I just      remove the    unit?

--Jose



	




   

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