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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Has anyone had experience installing a Scott tailwheel on a Yak 55M?  If so, is there any special fabrication I need to be aware of?

Thanks,

Anthony.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Hi Anthony,

I have a Scott 3200 on my 55M. I love it. MUCH superior to the Russian
tail wheel, especially as regards pushing and pulling and steering
into/out of the hangar. Plus if an FBO has any tailwheel tires/tubes,
they have that one.

You will need to fab an adapter plate to adapt the Russian tailwheel
spring to the Scott bolt pattern. I will be out at my hangar on Monday
(unfortunately have to work tomorrow, and didn't get this until afte I
came back for today...) and will shoot you a couple of pictures. It is
appears to be a pretty straightforward machining job, so it shouldn't be
a big deal to find a shop that can do it.

Good luck,

Scott Poehlmann
Yak 55M N155YK

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Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

If you could copy me on the pictures also.
Thanks
Herb Coussons
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On Mar 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Scott Poehlmann wrote:

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Hi Anthony,

I have a Scott 3200 on my 55M. I love it. MUCH superior to the
Russian tail wheel, especially as regards pushing and pulling and
steering into/out of the hangar. Plus if an FBO has any tailwheel
tires/tubes, they have that one.

You will need to fab an adapter plate to adapt the Russian tailwheel
spring to the Scott bolt pattern. I will be out at my hangar on
Monday (unfortunately have to work tomorrow, and didn't get this
until afte I came back for today...) and will shoot you a couple of
pictures. It is appears to be a pretty straightforward machining
job, so it shouldn't be a big deal to find a shop that can do it.

Good luck,

Scott Poehlmann
Yak 55M N155YK

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> Has anyone had experience installing a Scott tailwheel on a Yak
> 55M? If so, is there any special fabrication I need to be aware of?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Here are some pics of the assembly I had made. It bolts up underneath
the spring just like the original, using the the original holes,
etc... I had a bunch made. I'm not sure if the guy has any left
over. I could check if you're interested. I don't recall the cost
exactly, but I know they weren't cheap.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Hi Wesley,

thanks for the info and photos, this is very helpful.  If there are any leftovers from the original run, I would be very interested in purchasing one. 

Thanks,

Anthony.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Wesley Warner <warner.wesley(at)gmail.com (warner.wesley(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Here are some pics of the assembly I had made.  It bolts up underneath
the spring just like the original, using the the original holes,
etc...  I had a bunch made.  I'm not sure if the guy has any left
over.  I could check if you're interested.  I don't recall the cost
exactly, but I know they weren't cheap.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Yak 55M <yak55m(at)gmail.com (yak55m(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
> Has anyone had experience installing a Scott tailwheel on a Yak 55M?  If so,
> is there any special fabrication I need to be aware of?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Thanks Scott,

that is exactly what I am hoping to use on my airplane.  Photos would be a great help.

Regards,

Anthony.

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Hi Anthony,

I have a Scott 3200 on my 55M. I love it. MUCH superior to the Russian tail wheel, especially as regards pushing and pulling and steering into/out of the hangar. Plus if an FBO has any tailwheel tires/tubes, they have that one.

You will need to fab an adapter plate to adapt the Russian tailwheel spring to the Scott bolt pattern. I will be out at my hangar on Monday (unfortunately have to work tomorrow, and didn't get this until afte I came back for today...) and will shoot you a couple of pictures. It is appears to be a pretty straightforward machining job, so it shouldn't be a big deal to find a shop that can do it.

Good luck,

Scott Poehlmann
Yak 55M N155YK

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Wesley,

Since you had this made, any chance you have some drawings for the piece?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:19 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

I'll find out tomorrow what/if there are any more available. The
angle is set so that it is correct if you have gear extenders
installed (I did with Clevelands). If you don't have the extenders,
it's possible I could sell you the one that I have here. It has the
original angle (copied from the original tailwheel). I don't have the
model we did. It was done at the machinists facility. If he doesn't
have any more, I can create a new model from the one I have here.

These planes are a little tough for parts. I had to have aileron
bushings made as well. The availability wasn't good enough. If you
need some of those... I have extra sets. The easiest way to do a
quick check is to just to try and move your aileron at the tip
vertically. If you feel any play at all, chances are that they need
replacing.

Wes

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thanks for the info and photos, this is very helpful.  If there are any
leftovers from the original run, I would be very interested in purchasing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Thanks Wes,

the previous owner installed Grove 500x5 wheels and tires.  I don't think I have gear extenders, from what I can tell the axles are bolted directly to the base of the legs.  What do the extenders look like, and what is their purpose?  I will check my ailerons as you suggested and let you know if I need the bushings.

Regards,

Anthony.

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I'll find out tomorrow what/if there are any more available.  The
angle is set so that it is correct if you have gear extenders
installed (I did with Clevelands).  If you don't have the extenders,
it's possible I could sell you the one that I have here.  It has the
original angle (copied from the original tailwheel).  I don't have the
model we did.  It was done at the machinists facility.  If he doesn't
have any more, I can create a new model from the one I have here.

These planes are a little tough for parts.  I had to have aileron
bushings made as well.  The availability wasn't good enough.  If you
need some of those...  I have extra sets.  The easiest way to do a
quick check is to just to try and move your aileron at the tip
vertically.  If you feel any play at all, chances are that they need
replacing.

Wes

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Yak 55M <yak55m(at)gmail.com (yak55m(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
> Hi Wesley,
>
> thanks for the info and photos, this is very helpful.  If there are any
> leftovers from the original run, I would be very interested in purchasing
> one.
>
> Thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

I'm having some issues getting in touch with the the guy I had making
them before. Hopefully I can see him next week or so. I thought I
had one of the prototypes here, but I guess it's not. I should be
able to find that one next week also.

The extenders normally are just some plate material that bolts to the
landing gear holes and lowers the axles by about 3". Most people
started using them to run the larger Whirlwind prop and still have an
adequate amount of ground clearance.

Wes

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Quote:
Thanks Wes,

the previous owner installed Grove 500x5 wheels and tires.  I don't think I
have gear extenders, from what I can tell the axles are bolted directly to
the base of the legs.  What do the extenders look like, and what is their
purpose?  I will check my ailerons as you suggested and let you know if I
need the bushings.

Regards,

Anthony.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Thanks Wes,

that makes sense.  I think I have the extenders, but I will double check.  Any chance you can provide a photo (sorry to be a pest)?  Thanks for the follow up on the adapter plate, anything would help.

Regards,

Anthony.
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I'm having some issues getting in touch with the the guy I had making
them before.  Hopefully I can see him next week or so.  I thought I
had one of the prototypes here, but I guess it's not.  I should be
able to find that one next week also.

The extenders normally are just some plate material that bolts to the
landing gear holes and lowers the axles by about 3".  Most people
started using them to run the larger Whirlwind prop and still have an
adequate amount of ground clearance.

Wes

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Yak 55M <yak55m(at)gmail.com (yak55m(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
> Thanks Wes,
>
> the previous owner installed Grove 500x5 wheels and tires.  I don't think I
> have gear extenders, from what I can tell the axles are bolted directly to
> the base of the legs.  What do the extenders look like, and what is their
> purpose?  I will check my ailerons as you suggested and let you know if I
> need the bushings.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

I found the one adapter I have here at home. It was packed away. I
have attached a pic of it. In the picture is a gear extender as well,
so you can get an idea of what they look like. This particular Scott
adapter is for a plane without the gear extenders. It will work on
one with them, it's just not perfect.

Wes

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Yak 55M <yak55m(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Thanks Wes,

that makes sense.  I think I have the extenders, but I will double check.
Any chance you can provide a photo (sorry to be a pest)?  Thanks for the
follow up on the adapter plate, anything would help.

Regards,

Anthony.
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wrote:
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>
>
> I'm having some issues getting in touch with the the guy I had making
> them before.  Hopefully I can see him next week or so.  I thought I
> had one of the prototypes here, but I guess it's not.  I should be
> able to find that one next week also.
>
> The extenders normally are just some plate material that bolts to the
> landing gear holes and lowers the axles by about 3".  Most people
> started using them to run the larger Whirlwind prop and still have an
> adequate amount of ground clearance.
>
> Wes
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Yak 55M <yak55m(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Wes,
> >
> > the previous owner installed Grove 500x5 wheels and tires.  I don't
> > think I
> > have gear extenders, from what I can tell the axles are bolted directly
> > to
> > the base of the legs.  What do the extenders look like, and what is
> > their
> > purpose?  I will check my ailerons as you suggested and let you know if
> > I
> > need the bushings.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Anthony.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Hi Wes,

I am not sure if you received my previous email, but this is great news.  Are you willing to part with it for a price?  Or is there a way I can get the details to have one made locally?

Regards,

Anthony.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Wesley Warner <warner.wesley(at)gmail.com (warner.wesley(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] I found the one adapter I have here at home.  It was packed away.  I
have attached a pic of it.  In the picture is a gear extender as well,
so you can get an idea of what they look like.  This particular Scott
adapter is for a plane without the gear extenders.  It will work on
one with them, it's just not perfect.

Wes


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Yak 55M <yak55m(at)gmail.com (yak55m(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
> Thanks Wes,
>
> that makes sense.  I think I have the extenders, but I will double check.
> Any chance you can provide a photo (sorry to be a pest)?  Thanks for the
> follow up on the adapter plate, anything would help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Wesley Warner <warner.wesley(at)gmail.com (warner.wesley(at)gmail.com)>
> wrote:
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>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Wesley Warner <warner.wesley(at)gmail.com (warner.wesley(at)gmail.com)>
>>
>> I'm having some issues getting in touch with the the guy I had making
>> them before.  Hopefully I can see him next week or so.  I thought I
>> had one of the prototypes here, but I guess it's not.  I should be
>> able to find that one next week also.
>>
>> The extenders normally are just some plate material that bolts to the
>> landing gear holes and lowers the axles by about 3".  Most people
>> started using them to run the larger Whirlwind prop and still have an
>> adequate amount of ground clearance.
>>
>> Wes
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Yak 55M <yak55m(at)gmail.com (yak55m(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
>> > Thanks Wes,
>> >
>> > the previous owner installed Grove 500x5 wheels and tires.  I don't
>> > think I
>> > have gear extenders, from what I can tell the axles are bolted directly
>> > to
>> > the base of the legs.  What do the extenders look like, and what is
>> > their
>> > purpose?  I will check my ailerons as you suggested and let you know if
>> > I
>> > need the bushings.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Anthony.
>>
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Wes,

I never saw a reply post on this, did you say that you had or could get some drawings on the Scott tailwheel adapter that was machined?

Please lemme know,

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Mike,
The guy I was working with was supposed to get back to me. I just
spoke with him a few minutes ago, and lit a fire. Smile He made it seem
as though the file was gone because it has been so long. However,
he's going to look. He said that if he had the file and the rest of
the parts from the initial run, and I bought them, he would include
the file (if he can find it). I'll keep you updated.

Wes

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Ok. The guy got back to me tonight. He sent me a pic of the adapters
he has left (7 of them) and is looking for the digital file. I think
they are complete except for a counter-bore hole and a final
sanding/finishing. I'm trying to work a deal with him on all 7. If
it works out, they should be around $150ea with the final
sanding/finishing to be done by the buyer. They're made of 7075
Aluminum. They bolt up to the existing tailwheel spring on Yak 55 and
55M's with no modifications. If anyone is interested, please let me
know so, I can give him the go-ahead or not.

Thanks, Wes

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Wesley Warner <warner.wesley(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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Mike,
 The guy I was working with was supposed to get back to me.  I just
spoke with him a few minutes ago, and lit a fire. Smile  He made it seem
as though the file was gone because it has been so long.  However,
he's going to look.  He said that if he had the file and the rest of
the parts from the initial run, and I bought them, he would include
the file (if he can find it).  I'll keep you updated.

Wes

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:57 PM, mikspin <acromike(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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> Wes,
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> I never saw a reply post on this, did you say that you had or could get some drawings on the Scott tailwheel adapter that was machined?
>
> Please lemme know,
>
> Mike Hastings
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237409#237409
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Hi Wes,

I am interested.

Regards,

Anthony.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Wesley Warner <warner.wesley(at)gmail.com (warner.wesley(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Ok.  The guy got back to me tonight.  He sent me a pic of the adapters
he has left (7 of them) and is looking for the digital file.  I think
they are complete except for a counter-bore hole and a final
sanding/finishing.  I'm trying to work a deal with him on all 7.  If
it works out, they should be around $150ea with the final
sanding/finishing to be done by the buyer.  They're made of 7075
Aluminum.  They bolt up to the existing tailwheel spring on Yak 55 and
55M's with no modifications.  If anyone is interested, please let me
know so, I can give him the go-ahead or not.

Thanks, Wes

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Wesley Warner <warner.wesley(at)gmail.com (warner.wesley(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
> Mike,
>  The guy I was working with was supposed to get back to me.  I just
> spoke with him a few minutes ago, and lit a fire. Smile  He made it seem
> as though the file was gone because it has been so long.  However,
> he's going to look.  He said that if he had the file and the rest of
> the parts from the initial run, and I bought them, he would include
> the file (if he can find it).  I'll keep you updated.
>
> Wes
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:57 PM, mikspin <acromike(at)gmail.com (acromike(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "mikspin" <acromike(at)gmail.com (acromike(at)gmail.com)>
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>> Wes,
>>
>> I never saw a reply post on this, did you say that you had or could get some drawings on the Scott tailwheel adapter that was machined?
>>
>> Please lemme know,
>>
>> Mike Hastings
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237409#237409
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

Count me in.

Herb Coussons
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On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Wesley Warner wrote:

Quote:
Ok. The guy got back to me tonight. He sent me a pic of the adapters
he has left (7 of them) and is looking for the digital file. I think
they are complete except for a counter-bore hole and a final
sanding/finishing. I'm trying to work a deal with him on all 7. If
it works out, they should be around $150ea with the final
sanding/finishing to be done by the buyer. They're made of 7075
Aluminum. They bolt up to the existing tailwheel spring on Yak 55 and
55M's with no modifications. If anyone is interested, please let me
know so, I can give him the go-ahead or not.

Thanks, Wes

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Wesley Warner
<warner.wesley(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike,
> The guy I was working with was supposed to get back to me. I just
> spoke with him a few minutes ago, and lit a fire. Smile He made it seem
> as though the file was gone because it has been so long. However,
> he's going to look. He said that if he had the file and the rest of
> the parts from the initial run, and I bought them, he would include
> the file (if he can find it). I'll keep you updated.
>
> Wes
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:57 PM, mikspin <acromike(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wes,
>>
>> I never saw a reply post on this, did you say that you had or
>> could get some drawings on the Scott tailwheel adapter that was
>> machined?
>>
>> Please lemme know,
>>
>> Mike Hastings
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 37409#237409
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M Reply with quote

count me in
andres

From: Herb Coussons <drc(at)wscare.com>
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Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 1:02:56 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Scott Taliwheel for Yak 55M

<warner.wesley(at)gmail.com (warner.wesley(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
> Mike,
>  The guy I was working with was supposed to get back to me.  I just
> spoke with him a few minutes ago, and lit a fire. Smile  He made it seem
> as though the file was gone because it has been so long.  However,
> he's going to look.  He said that if he had the file and the rest of
> the parts from the initial run, and I bought them, he would include
> the file (if he can find it).  I'll keep you updated.
>
> Wes
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:57 PM, mikspin <acromike(at)gmail.com (acromike(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
>> you say that you had or 
>> could get some drawings on the Scott tailwheel adapter that was 
>> machined?
>>
>> Please lemme know,
>>
>> Mike Hastings
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237409#237409
>>
>>
>>
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