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steve2(at)sover.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:09 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

Hey Commander gang,

  

 Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over  aircraft. He is one of those guys sitting out at the end of runways taking  pictures of airliners for sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells  photos on the web and to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did something  I had been meaning to do for a long time. We were able to pick him up outside  Boston and take him with us for a day. I was glad to do it, and we had a nice  surprise for him.

  

 We started with some fairly boring work between  Rhode Island and New Hampshire, but we were working with a Boston Bravo  clearance, which I think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in  Connecticut, where a friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't  been up close to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks  horrendous.)

  

 Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of  Fire Island, we dropped down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance  of the VFR corridor, passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their  arrivals, and passing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney  Island.

  

 Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north  over the Verrazano Bridge into New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of  photos I guess, with some of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner  shot of Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown, the Intrepid Museum. (A  national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They should  have been put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter traffic.  Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln and Holland  Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do you locate a  *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)

  

 We had a real job with vertical photography in the  Bronx, so I had to call up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated  survey location. Gave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington  Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to intercept our  line to the northeast and sneak under departing LGA traffic, and then back to  Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally home.

  

 The point of all this (besides being pleasantly  surprised I remember how to do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the  day. If you put your cursor in the photo you can view a much larger  version.

  

 http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp

  

 Steve

  

  

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andrew.bridget(at)telus.n
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

You're right, Steve: great pictures! Wow! Thanks  for posting.

  

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John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

Steve,  

   

Tell Shaun’s bro that those are great pics! You’re making me miss my homeland….I grew up on the north shore of Long Island and I still love NY and visit every summer. NYC is an incredible place! It sure looks like you had picture perfect weather too. Plus, as a Commander pilot I never get tired of “spinner shots”. How many times have I looked out my window and seen myself reflected in the spinner, and just had to give myself a Thumbs Up (check out that handsome devil lucky enough to fly this bad(at)ss piece of machinery!).  

   

I find it amusing that NY pilots use tunnels as landmarks. If that isn’t NY-pilot elitism, I don’t know what is. New Yorkers are all the same. Doesn’t matter if you drive a hot dog stand, a cab or an aircraft.  

   

As far as the Piaggio P-180 (the “flying Catfish”), I’ve heard that it is a very nice-flying airplane. I’ve also heard that if you can see the end of the runway, it’s not nearly long enough. Even on a cold day. Oh well, airplanes are always give-and-take. They sure are fast for a prop plane.   

   

/J   

   

   

       

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East

 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:09 AM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Great Day, Great Photos  

  

  

     

Hey Commander gang,  

    

   

    

Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is one of those guys sitting out at the end of runways taking pictures of airliners for sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells photos on the web and to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did something I had been meaning to do for a long time. We were able to pick him up outside Boston and take him with us for a day. I was glad to do it, and we had a nice surprise for him.  

    

   

    

We started with some fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New Hampshire, but we were working with a Boston Bravo clearance, which I think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in Connecticut, where a friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't been up close to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks horrendous.)  

    

   

    

Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of Fire Island, we dropped down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance of the VFR corridor, passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their arrivals, and passing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney Island.  

    

   

    

Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano Bridge into New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess, with some of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner shot of Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown, the Intrepid Museum. (A national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They should have been put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter traffic. Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do you locate a *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)  

    

   

    

We had a real job with vertical photography in the Bronx, so I had to call up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated survey location. Gave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to intercept our line to the northeast and sneak under departing LGA traffic, and then back to Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally home.  

    

   

    

The point of all this (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember how to do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the day. If you put your cursor in the photo you can view a much larger version.  

    

   

    

http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp  

    

   

    

Steve  

    

   

    

   

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

Great story, Steve. Thanks

  



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at  Col-East

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:09 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Great Day, Great  Photos

 

 Hey Commander gang,

  

 Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over  aircraft. He is one of those guys sitting out at the end of runways taking  pictures of airliners for sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells  photos on the web and to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did something  I had been meaning to do for a long time. We were able to pick him up outside  Boston and take him with us for a day. I was glad to do it, and we had a nice  surprise for him.

  

 We started with some fairly boring work between  Rhode Island and New Hampshire, but we were working with a Boston Bravo  clearance, which I think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in  Connecticut, where a friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't  been up close to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks  horrendous.)

  

 Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of  Fire Island, we dropped down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance  of the VFR corridor, passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their  arrivals, and passing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney  Island.

  

 Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north  over the Verrazano Bridge into New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of  photos I guess, with some of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner  shot of Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown, the Intrepid Museum. (A  national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They should  have been put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter traffic.  Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln and Holland  Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do you locate a  *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)

  

 We had a real job with vertical photography in the  Bronx, so I had to call up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated  survey location. Gave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington  Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to intercept our  line to the northeast and sneak under departing LGA traffic, and then back to  Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally home.

  

 The point of all this (besides being pleasantly  surprised I remember how to do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the  day. If you put your cursor in the photo you can view a much larger  version.

  

 http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp

  

 Steve

  

  

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

John, 

  

 I was wondering about the maintenance remark concerning the  Piaggio's. I stopped at our local watering hole (Camarillo, CA) the other day  and saw the local Piaggio being serviced. There were a lot of folks around the  180 working things here and dabbing things there to get it ready for the next  flight. Maybe someone on the list would know if it's really such a good option  to a jet. I have taken a fancy to the Premier because of its speed, but, as you  said, there are always tradeoffs. 

  

 Nico

  

  



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John  Vormbaum

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:50 PM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Great Day,  Great Photos

 

  

Steve, 

  

Tell  Shaun’s bro that those are great pics! You’re making me miss my homeland….I grew  up on the north shore of Long Island and I still love NY and visit every summer.  NYC is an incredible place! It sure looks like you had picture perfect weather  too. Plus, as a Commander pilot I never get tired of “spinner shots”. How many  times have I looked out my window and seen myself reflected in the spinner, and  just had to give myself a Thumbs Up (check out that handsome devil lucky enough  to fly this bad(at)ss piece of machinery!). 

  

I  find it amusing that NY pilots use tunnels as landmarks. If that isn’t NY-pilot  elitism, I don’t know what is. New Yorkers are all the same. Doesn’t matter if  you drive a hot dog stand, a cab or an aircraft. 

  

As  far as the Piaggio P-180 (the “flying Catfish”), I’ve heard that it is a very  nice-flying airplane. I’ve also heard that if you can see the end of the runway,  it’s not nearly long enough. Even on a cold day. Oh well, airplanes are always  give-and-take. They sure are fast for a prop plane.  

  

/J   

  

  

    

From:  owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at  Col-East

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:09 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Great Day, Great  Photos



 

   

Hey Commander  gang,

  

 

  

Shaun our cameraman  has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is one of those guys sitting out at  the end of runways taking pictures of airliners for sites like airliners.net.  He's now published and sells photos on the web and to corporate flight  departments. Saturday we did something I had been meaning to do for a long time.  We were able to pick him up outside Boston and take him with us for a day. I was  glad to do it, and we had a nice surprise for him.

  

 

  

We started with some  fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New Hampshire, but we were working  with a Boston Bravo clearance, which I think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for  fuel in Connecticut, where a friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he  hadn't been up close to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks  horrendous.)

  

 

  

Left CT and headed  south for Long Island. South of Fire Island, we dropped down to 500 feet and  drove all the way to the entrance of the VFR corridor, passing a couple miles  south of JFK and under their arrivals, and passing all of the other famous  landmarks like Coney Island.

  

 

  

Jumped back up to  1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano Bridge into New York Harbor.  Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess, with some of them some real keepers.  Classic Commander spinner shot of Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown,  the Intrepid Museum. (A national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the  ground. They should have been put right back up again.) Very busy with  helicopter traffic. Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the  Lincoln and Holland Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do  you locate a *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)

  

 

  

We had a real job  with vertical photography in the Bronx, so I had to call up LaGuardia to  negotiate access to our precoordinated survey location. Gave Dan the opportunity  for a pass over the George Washington Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson  back over the GWB to intercept our line to the northeast and sneak under  departing LGA traffic, and then back to Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally  home.

  

 

  

The point of all this  (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember how to do it) is that Dan took  some great photos of the day. If you put your cursor in the photo you can view a  much larger version.

  

 

  

http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp

  

 

  

Steve

  

 

  

 

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steve2(at)sover.net
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:07 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

Nico, Col-East is next door to Turboprops East.  They are a regional King Air fix-it shop, but they picked up a regional  franchise for Piaggio repair and maintenance. Some of the fellas went over to  Italy for training. There seems to be some things that are peculiar about the  aircraft's maintenance, but I've become somewhat familiar with the comings and  goings of particular aircraft, and they don't seem to be hanger queens.  I wouldn't base my buying decision on that information!

  

 The surfaces of the thing are faired with compound  to keep it slick. During maintenenance some of that needs to be  redone.

  

 They seemed really weird at first, but after being  inside one (both the front and the back), it looks like a really nice place to  be (great visibility), and the crews I spoke with really liked it. One of the  pilots comes in out of Westchester(?) that I believe used to fly for John  Towner. He'll wander over from time to time to again get up close to a  500B.

  

 The pusher props have a unique crackle in the  pattern, and they do approach pretty fast, but even with our displaced threshold  (3000 something useable) and hills in the way, they do ok.

  

 Over 400 knots!

  

 Steve

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steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

Glad folks liked the pictures.

  

 Hi John! It is an awesome place, isn't it! Back  when the LIRR was running diesels on the southern line, as kids we'd jump on a  train and ride in to go listen to jazz or spend time doing whatever it was we  did. I remember riding between the cars on the way home watching the scenery  flash by in the dark. Or maybe take the old '67 Cougar or Diplomat (ex-police!)  through the Queens-Midtown tunnel and mash the peddle to the floor to hear the  secondaries howl. Two weeks ago I drove the pick-em up truck down from Vermont  to Brooklyn to visit a jazz musician friend. I still love the place. When I  called up Lagaurdia tower to get their fax number, the controller yelled to his  buddy "Hey Tony, what's our fax number?" Perfect...... You're right on about New  Yorkers from and around the City. (It is nice going home to my Vermont  hilltop.)

  

 I moved from the south shore to the north, out to  Rocky Point before leaving LI. A friend there still sails out of Mt. Sinai  Harbor (another mapping pilot). Still love the north shore, used to have a  little Fiat X1/9, perfect for those roads with it's raging 1.5 liter engine. I  could walk down to the cliffs and watch nor'easters blow in.

  

 John if you come out east, do visit.

  

 While in the air I told Dan about Commander  'spinner shots'. From every point of the globe there are those shots. Out of all  the photos, I thought #25 was the best one. Dan is going to post that one to  Airliners.net and he thinks it will be popular. 

  

 Steve

  

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John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

We still have beach property on the north shore...in fact,  I married my wife there. LI is an awesome place, from April to October. The rest  of the year I'm happy to stay here in CA.

  

 I'll definitely ring you up when I'm there. I've been  meaning to fly my 500B out there, maybe this will be the  year....

  

 /J



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve  W

Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:38 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Great Day,  Great Photos

 

 Glad folks liked the pictures.

  

 Hi John! It is an awesome place, isn't it! Back  when the LIRR was running diesels on the southern line, as kids we'd jump on a  train and ride in to go listen to jazz or spend time doing whatever it was we  did. I remember riding between the cars on the way home watching the scenery  flash by in the dark. Or maybe take the old '67 Cougar or Diplomat (ex-police!)  through the Queens-Midtown tunnel and mash the peddle to the floor to hear the  secondaries howl. Two weeks ago I drove the pick-em up truck down from Vermont  to Brooklyn to visit a jazz musician friend. I still love the place. When I  called up Lagaurdia tower to get their fax number, the controller yelled to his  buddy "Hey Tony, what's our fax number?" Perfect...... You're right on about New  Yorkers from and around the City. (It is nice going home to my Vermont  hilltop.)

  

 I moved from the south shore to the north, out to  Rocky Point before leaving LI. A friend there still sails out of Mt. Sinai  Harbor (another mapping pilot). Still love the north shore, used to have a  little Fiat X1/9, perfect for those roads with it's raging 1.5 liter engine. I  could walk down to the cliffs and watch nor'easters blow in.

  

 John if you come out east, do visit.

  

 While in the air I told Dan about Commander  'spinner shots'. From every point of the globe there are those shots. Out of all  the photos, I thought #25 was the best one. Dan is going to post that one to  Airliners.net and he thinks it will be popular. 

  

 Steve

  

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dongirod

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 140

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

I pulled up the Piaggio's P-180 II, web page and it  stated it needed less than 3000 feet for takeoff and landing, not as good as my  Commander, but not bad for a plane that grosses at 12K., will climb to 41K and  go 400Kts.  Saw everything but a price tag.  Probably a  reason!

  

 Don

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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:06 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

Steve,

  

 Thanks for posting the photos.  My  wife, Linn, particularly enjoyed them.  One of her former husbands was  the Base Commander of Fort Hamilton back in the early 90's and she lived in  quarters one, which can be seen in the lower left portion of the Ft. Hamilton  photo.  Later she moved to Bay Ridge (Brooklyn) and had a condo that faced  Wall Street across the water.

  

 The quality  of the photos is  outstanding.

  

 Best regards,

  

 Moe

 N680RR

 Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal  Award.

  

  

  

  



  From: Steve at Col-East (steve2(at)sover.net) 

 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:08 AM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)  

 Subject: Great Day, Great Photos

 



 Hey Commander gang,

  

 Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over  aircraft. He is one of those guys sitting out at the end of runways taking  pictures of airliners for sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells  photos on the web and to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did something  I had been meaning to do for a long time. We were able to pick him up outside  Boston and take him with us for a day. I was glad to do it, and we had a nice  surprise for him.

  

 We started with some fairly boring work between  Rhode Island and New Hampshire, but we were working with a Boston Bravo  clearance, which I think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in  Connecticut, where a friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't  been up close to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks  horrendous.)

  

 Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of  Fire Island, we dropped down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance  of the VFR corridor, passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their  arrivals, and passing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney  Island.

  

 Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north  over the Verrazano Bridge into New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of  photos I guess, with some of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner  shot of Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown, the Intrepid Museum. (A  national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They should  have been put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter traffic.  Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln and Holland  Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do you locate a  *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)

  

 We had a real job with vertical photography in the  Bronx, so I had to call up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated  survey location. Gave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington  Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to intercept our  line to the northeast and sneak under departing LGA traffic, and then back to  Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally home.

  

 The point of all this (besides being pleasantly  surprised I remember how to do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the  day. If you put your cursor in the photo you can view a much larger  version.

  

 http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp

  

 Steve

  

  

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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:13 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

John,

  

 You are right on with your comments  about admiring yourself in the spinners on the Commander.  This weekend I  will be flying back to Los Angeles and I am going over to L19 today to polish  the spinners on N680RR,

  

 Regards,

  

 Moe Mills

 N680RR

 680Fp

 Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal  Award

  

  



  From: John Vormbaum (john(at)vormbaum.com) 

 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:49 PM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)  

 Subject: RE: Great Day, Great  Photos

 



  

Steve, 

  

Tell  Shaun’s bro that those are great pics! You’re making me miss my homeland….I grew  up on the north shore of Long Island and I still love NY and visit every summer.  NYC is an incredible place! It sure looks like you had picture perfect weather  too. Plus, as a Commander pilot I never get tired of “spinner shots”. How many  times have I looked out my window and seen myself reflected in the spinner, and  just had to give myself a Thumbs Up (check out that handsome devil lucky enough  to fly this bad(at)ss piece of machinery!). 

  

I  find it amusing that NY pilots use tunnels as landmarks. If that isn’t NY-pilot  elitism, I don’t know what is. New Yorkers are all the same. Doesn’t matter if  you drive a hot dog stand, a cab or an aircraft. 

  

As  far as the Piaggio P-180 (the “flying Catfish”), I’ve heard that it is a very  nice-flying airplane. I’ve also heard that if you can see the end of the runway,  it’s not nearly long enough. Even on a cold day. Oh well, airplanes are always  give-and-take. They sure are fast for a prop plane.  

  

/J   

  

  

    

From:  owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at  Col-East

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:09 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Great Day, Great  Photos



 

   

Hey Commander  gang,

  

 

  

Shaun our cameraman  has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is one of those guys sitting out at  the end of runways taking pictures of airliners for sites like airliners.net.  He's now published and sells photos on the web and to corporate flight  departments. Saturday we did something I had been meaning to do for a long time.  We were able to pick him up outside Boston and take him with us for a day. I was  glad to do it, and we had a nice surprise for him.

  

 

  

We started with some  fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New Hampshire, but we were working  with a Boston Bravo clearance, which I think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for  fuel in Connecticut, where a friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he  hadn't been up close to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks  horrendous.)

  

 

  

Left CT and headed  south for Long Island. South of Fire Island, we dropped down to 500 feet and  drove all the way to the entrance of the VFR corridor, passing a couple miles  south of JFK and under their arrivals, and passing all of the other famous  landmarks like Coney Island.

  

 

  

Jumped back up to  1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano Bridge into New York Harbor.  Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess, with some of them some real keepers.  Classic Commander spinner shot of Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown,  the Intrepid Museum. (A national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the  ground. They should have been put right back up again.) Very busy with  helicopter traffic. Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the  Lincoln and Holland Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do  you locate a *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)

  

 

  

We had a real job  with vertical photography in the Bronx, so I had to call up LaGuardia to  negotiate access to our precoordinated survey location. Gave Dan the opportunity  for a pass over the George Washington Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson  back over the GWB to intercept our line to the northeast and sneak under  departing LGA traffic, and then back to Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally  home.

  

 

  

The point of all this  (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember how to do it) is that Dan took  some great photos of the day. If you put your cursor in the photo you can view a  much larger version.

  

 

  

http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp

  

 

  

Steve

  

 

  

 

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kamala(at)MSN.COM
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:05 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

mm C what do you do to polish your spinners? gmc

  From: moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Great Day C Great Photos

Date: Wed C 25 Mar 2009 05:11:03 -0700

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 You are right on with your comments about admiring yourself in the spinners on the Commander.  This weekend I will be flying back to Los Angeles and I am going over to L19 today to polish the spinners on N680RR C

 Regards C

 Moe Mills

 N680RR

 680Fp

 Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award

  From: John Vormbaum (john(at)vormbaum.com) 

 Sent: Monday C March 23 C 2009 9:49 PM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: RE: Great Day C Great Photos

Steve C 

Tell Shaun’s bro that those are great pics! You’re making me miss my homeland….I grew up on the north shore of Long Island and I still love NY and visit every summer. NYC is an incredible place! It sure looks like you had picture perfect weather too. Plus C as a Commander pilot I never get tired of “spinner shots”. How many times have I looked out my window and seen myself reflected in the spinner C and just had to give myself a Thumbs Up (check out that handsome devil lucky enough to fly this bad(at)ss piece of machinery!). 

I find it amusing that NY pilots use tunnels as landmarks. If that isn’t NY-pilot elitism C I don’t know what is. New Yorkers are all the same. Doesn’t matter if you drive a hot dog stand C a cab or an aircraft. 

As far as the Piaggio P-180 (the “flying Catfish”) C I’ve heard that it is a very nice-flying airplane. I’ve also heard that if you can see the end of the runway C it’s not nearly long enough. Even on a cold day. Oh well C airplanes are always give-and-take. They sure are fast for a prop plane.  

/J  

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East

Sent: Monday C March 23 C 2009 7:09 AM

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Great Day C Great Photos

Hey Commander gang C

Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is one of those guys sitting out at the end of runways taking pictures of airliners for sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells photos on the web and to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did something I had been meaning to do for a long time. We were able to pick him up outside Boston and take him with us for a day. I was glad to do it C and we had a nice surprise for him.

We started with some fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New Hampshire C but we were working with a Boston Bravo clearance C which I think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in Connecticut C where a friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't been up close to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks horrendous.)

Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of Fire Island C we dropped down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance of the VFR corridor C passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their arrivals C and passing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney Island.

Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano Bridge into New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess C with some of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner shot of Lower Manhattan looking east C midtown C uptown C the Intrepid Museum. (A national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They should have been put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter traffic. Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do you locate a *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)

We had a real job with vertical photography in the Bronx C so I had to call up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated survey location. Gave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington Bridge C and a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to intercept our line to the northeast and sneak under departing LGA traffic C and then back to Worcester to drop Dan off C and finally home.

The point of all this (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember how to do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the day. If you put your cursor in the photo you can view a much larger version.

http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp

Steve

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

Hi Guys,

  

 On the subject of spinner shots, I took one (from the r/h seat!) when Capt  JimBob flew me from the Fly-In at Kansas City in September 2004.

  

 I happened to look at it again a few days ago and was staggered to see  that 65,835 distinct hits have been notched up.

 This means that nearly 66,000 different people have not just look at the  thumbnail image, but have clicked to get a "Large" format view.

  

 You guys can help bump the number up more by searching on "N222JS" or  "Photo ID 0902631".

 I'll be checking daily guys, so don't let me down.

 Use your PC, ones at work, at your neighbors - *anywhere* 

  

 Best Regards,

 Barry

  

   From: moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com (moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com)

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject:  Re: Great Day, Great Photos

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:11:03  -0700



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 [quote]   John,

    

   You are right on with your    comments about admiring yourself in the spinners on the Commander.  This    weekend I will be flying back to Los Angeles and I am going over to L19 today    to polish the spinners on N680RR,

    

   Regards,

    

   Moe Mills

   N680RR

   680Fp

   Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal    Award

    

      



      From: John Vormbaum (john(at)vormbaum.com) 

   Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:49 PM

   To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)    

   Subject: RE: Great Day, Great    Photos

   



      

Steve,   

    

Tell    Shaun’s bro that those are great pics! You’re making me miss my homeland….I    grew up on the north shore of Long Island and I still love NY and visit every    summer. NYC is an incredible place! It sure looks like you had picture perfect    weather too. Plus, as a Commander pilot I never get tired of “spinner shots”.    How many times have I looked out my window and seen myself reflected in the    spinner, and just had to give myself a Thumbs Up (check out that handsome    devil lucky enough to fly this bad(at)ss piece of machinery!).   

    

I    find it amusing that NY pilots use tunnels as landmarks. If that isn’t    NY-pilot elitism, I don’t know what is. New Yorkers are all the same. Doesn’t    matter if you drive a hot dog stand, a cab or an aircraft.   

    

As    far as the Piaggio P-180 (the “flying Catfish”), I’ve heard that it is a very    nice-flying airplane. I’ve also heard that if you can see the end of the    runway, it’s not nearly long enough. Even on a cold day. Oh well, airplanes    are always give-and-take. They sure are fast for a prop plane.    

    

/J       

    

    

          

From:    owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve    at Col-East

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:09 AM

To:    commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Great Day,    Great Photos



   

       

Hey Commander    gang,

      

 

      

Shaun our cameraman    has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is one of those guys sitting out at    the end of runways taking pictures of airliners for sites like airliners.net.    He's now published and sells photos on the web and to corporate flight    departments. Saturday we did something I had been meaning to do for a long    time. We were able to pick him up outside Boston and take him with us for a    day. I was glad to do it, and we had a nice surprise for him.

      

 

      

We started with    some fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New Hampshire, but we were    working with a Boston Bravo clearance, which I think he enjoyed. We    pit-stopped for fuel in Connecticut, where a friendly Piaggio crew let Dan    aboard an aircraft he hadn't been up close to. (These things have grown on me.    Maintenance looks horrendous.)

      

 

      

Left CT and headed    south for Long Island. South of Fire Island, we dropped down to 500 feet and    drove all the way to the entrance of the VFR corridor, passing a couple miles    south of JFK and under their arrivals, and passing all of the other famous    landmarks like Coney Island.

      

 

      

Jumped back up to    1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano Bridge into New York Harbor.    Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess, with some of them some real    keepers. Classic Commander spinner shot of Lower Manhattan looking east,    midtown, uptown, the Intrepid Museum. (A national tradegy the Twin Towers are    still a hole in the ground. They should have been put right back up    again.) Very busy with helicopter traffic. Really busy. (I always forget    the copter guys use the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels for callout positions.    Whose idea was that? How do you locate a *&^%$& tunnel from the    air?)

      

 

      

We had a real job    with vertical photography in the Bronx, so I had to call up LaGuardia to    negotiate access to our precoordinated survey location. Gave Dan the    opportunity for a pass over the George Washington Bridge, and a tight U-turn    over the Hudson back over the GWB to intercept our line to the northeast and    sneak under departing LGA traffic, and then back to Worcester to drop Dan off,    and finally home.

      

 

      

The point of all    this (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember how to do it) is that Dan    took some great photos of the day. If you put your cursor in the photo you can    view a much larger version.

      

 

      

http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp

      

 

      

Steve

      

 

      

 

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steve2(at)sover.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:07 pm Post subject: Great Day, Great Photos

Got a link?

  

 By the way...... Barry do you scour the big aircraft  'photo' sites from time to time for Commanders? I looked a couple days ago to  see if Dan might have posted his, and saw a couple 2008 photos of Commanders in  Iran.

  

 Real glad folks enjoyed those photos.

  

 Steve

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