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dwilde(at)clearwire.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:20 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

This afternoon I started taxiing and heard a metal to metal grinding.  

On investigation, I found the upper rubber spacer for the main gear on 

the right side was missing and the lower one in bad shape.  My plane 

only has a little over 50 hours.  The left side spacers look to be ok 

for now.  I guess the upper spacer must have departed after my last 

landing because I don't remember hearing that noise before.



Is this a common issue or did I not install and/or tighten the spacers 

correctly the first time? 



Dan Wilde

N948DW

arno7452(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

Dan,

I think this is weakness on CH701.  I finally cut tread from auto tire to 

fit.  All four pads seem to be surviving great.  Cutting the steel belts on 

the tire is a little difficult but can be done.



The little sponge like pads from Zenith last about 5 landings.

Regards,

Ken Arnold

CH701 N701LK 912ULS



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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:06 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

Dan,

 Yes this is common, did mine 3x until I finally got smart and cut up a  truck tire and used the tread portion. has worked great since.

  

 Bob Spudis

 N701ZX  172 hrs

  

  

  

  

 In a message dated 3/25/2009 8:21:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  dwilde(at)clearwire.net writes:

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This afternoon I started taxiing and heard    a metal to metal grinding.  

On investigation, I found the upper    rubber spacer for the main gear on 

the right side was missing and the    lower one in bad shape.  My plane 

only has a little over 50    hours.  The left side spacers look to be ok 

for now.  I guess    the upper spacer must have departed after my last 

landing because I don't    remember hearing that noise before.



Is this a common issue or did I not    install and/or tighten the spacers 

correctly the first time? 



Dan    Wilde

	


 

  

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bobkat

Joined: 07 Sep 2008
Posts: 143
Location: Bismarck, ND

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

My original rubber Zenith pads lasted about 3 landings!  I went down  to the local Macs Hardware surplus place and got some thick belting.  Works  great now!  

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ggower_99(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

Happened the same to our 701 here, cut one from a old Cessna tire (avoid using car tires, is an airplane   and cut the rubber part(s) to use  from the sides of the tire...   Lasted nearly 200 hrs....   Plane has 236 hrs and just looks like the piece of tire needs  replacement. Probably this next Saturday...   Not a dificult thing to do.  Once you get the correct size, cut some extras to save for next 200 hrs "preventive mantainance" or maybe a few more hrs...

  

 Saludos

 Gary Gower.

 Flying from Chapala

 701 912S   236 hrs.



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Subject: Re: Rubber Spacers on main gear

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Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:06 PM



   Dan,

 Yes this is common, did mine 3x until I finally got smart and cut up a truck tire and used the tread portion. has worked great since.

  

 Bob Spudis

 N701ZX  172 hrs

  

  

  

  

 In a message dated 3/25/2009 8:21:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dwilde(at)clearwire.net writes:

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This afternoon I started taxiing and heard a metal to metal grinding.  

On investigation, I found the upper rubber spacer for the main gear on 

the right side was missing and the lower one in bad shape.  My plane 

only has a little over 50 hours.  The left side spacers look to be ok 

for now.  I guess the upper spacer must have departed after my last 

landing because I don't remember hearing that noise before.



Is this a common issue or did I not install and/or tighten the spacers 

correctly the first time? 



Dan Wilde

	


 

  



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kenryan(at)alaska.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

So, the obvious question is ...



Have they corrected the problem? Are they now using different material?



On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM, BokKat <bobkat(at)btinet.net (bobkat(at)btinet.net)> wrote:

 [quote]       My original rubber Zenith pads lasted about 3 landings!  I went down  to the local Macs Hardware surplus place and got some thick belting.  Works  great now!  

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

On the 601XL they use a piece of radiator hose cut in half.  

   

-- Craig  

       

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My original rubber Zenith pads lasted about 3 landings!  I went down to the local Macs Hardware surplus place and got some thick belting.  Works great now!    

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JohnDRead(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

The answer to your question that Zenith has switched to a urethane material  for the pad They cost $6.50 each plus shipping.

  

 John  Read

CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300



Phone: 303-648-3261

Fax:  303-648-3262

Cell: 719-494-4567   

  In a message dated 3/25/2009 9:20:26 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  kenryan(at)alaska.net writes:

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		  So, the    obvious question is ...



Have they corrected the problem? Are they now    using different material?



   On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM, BokKat <bobkat(at)btinet.net (bobkat(at)btinet.net)> wrote:

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		            My original rubber Zenith pads lasted about 3 landings!  I went      down to the local Macs Hardware surplus place and got some thick      belting.  Works great now!  

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              Sent:        Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:06 PM

       Subject:        Re: Rubber Spacers on main gear

       



              Dan,

       Yes this is common, did mine 3x until I finally got smart and cut up        a truck tire and used the tread portion. has worked great since.

        

       Bob Spudis

       N701ZX  172 hrs

        

        

        

        

       In a message dated 3/25/2009 8:21:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dwilde(at)clearwire.net (dwilde(at)clearwire.net) writes:

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This afternoon I          started taxiing and heard a metal to metal grinding.  

On          investigation, I found the upper rubber spacer for the main gear on          

the right side was missing and the lower one in bad shape.  My          plane 

only has a little over 50 hours.  The left side spacers          look to be ok 

for now.  I guess the upper spacer must have          departed after my last 

landing because I don't remember hearing that          noise before.



Is this a common issue or did I not install and/or          tighten the spacers 

correctly the first time? 



Dan          Wilde

	


       

        



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Curt.Thompson(at)verizon.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

I was at my father place a few months ago and out of the blue I asked if he

had any pieces of conveyer belt.  He walked to the corner of his shop and

handed me a slab of it.  I got a chuckle.  Dad's a packrat for everything.



A few months ago in the DVD that came with the Zenith newsletter had someone

doing a pre-flight on a CH701 (I think it was Gus).  That CH701 had some

kind of pink material on the main gear.  Anyone know what that is?



Curt

NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

A piece of hose was supplied with the 701 and it just does not hold up.  

 Bob Spudis

  

  

  

 In a message dated 3/25/2009 11:47:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  craig(at)craigandjean.com writes:

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On    the 601XL they use a piece of radiator hose cut in half.   

    

--    Craig   

          

From:    owner-zenith701801-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of    BokKat

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:02 PM

To:    zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List:    Rubber Spacers on main gear



   

       

My    original rubber Zenith pads lasted about 3 landings!  I went down to the    local Macs Hardware surplus place and got some thick belting.  Works    great now!  

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Sent:      Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:06 PM

          

Subject:      Re: Rubber Spacers on main      gear

          

 

               

Dan,

          

Yes      this is common, did mine 3x until I finally got smart and cut up a truck      tire and used the tread portion. has worked great      since.

          

 

          

Bob      Spudis

          

N701ZX       172 hrs



	
	


 

  

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bobkat

Joined: 07 Sep 2008
Posts: 143
Location: Bismarck, ND

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:13 am Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

I used the hose they sent, but replaced it right away (a couple hours  flying) for heavy thick belting of some kind.  About 1/4 to 3/8 in  thick!  

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Tommy Walker

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 442
Location: Anniston, AL 36207

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Rubber Spacers on main gear

I think Zenith also changed the culprit that caused the premature failure of the rubber pad.  



I peeked in the parts bin when I was up there in September and it looked to me like that part has been changed.  There was a ridge along the bottom side that just cut through the rubber bumper, causing it to fail early.  I think they have a new design now.  



I also received the rubber hose with my two kits.  We finally fixed it by using a six-ply truck tire sidewall.



Tommy Walker in Alabama

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O[quote="JohnDRead(at)aol.com"]The answer to your question that Zenith has switched to a urethane material  for the pad They cost $6.50 each plus shipping.

  

 John  Read

CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300



Phone: 303-648-3261

Fax:  303-648-3262

Cell: 719-494-4567   

  In a message dated 3/25/2009 9:20:26 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  kenryan(at)alaska.net writes:

 [quote]So, the    obvious question is ...

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Tommy Walker
N25A - Anniston, AL

randy(at)rjhebertassoc.co
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

Mine are in place for temporary fit.

These were hard to drill out the openings for the studs.



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lgold(at)quantum-associat
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

I have about 50-hours and many rough field landings on the new Zenith

Urethane pads... They don't show any wear on them and seem to be working

fine.

Les 



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Tommy Walker

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 442
Location: Anniston, AL 36207

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Rubber Spacers on main gear

Gary,



I enjoy the humor in your posts to this list.  Plus, you have good advice to pass along to those of us who sometimes get a little humor impaired.



Redneck Spanish Translation:  "Gary, you are funny!"



Thanks,



Tommy Walker in Alabama

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[quote="ggower_99(at)yahoo.com"]Happened the same to our 701 here, cut one from a old Cessna tire (avoid using car tires, is an airplane ï¿½ and cut the rubber part(s) to use  from the sides of the tire...ï¿½  Lasted nearly 200 hrs....   Plane has 236 hrs and just looks like the piece of tire needs  replacement. Probably this next Saturday...   Not a dificult thing to do.  Once you get the correct size, cut some extras to save for next 200 hrs "preventive mantainance" or maybe a few more hrs...

  

 Saludos

 Gary Gower.

 Flying from Chapala

 701 912S   236 hrs.

_________________
Tommy Walker
N25A - Anniston, AL

bobkat

Joined: 07 Sep 2008
Posts: 143
Location: Bismarck, ND

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

Definitely!

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dwilde(at)clearwire.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

Thanks to all for the help on this issue.  I really like the urethane 

solution but not the color.  However, being frugal (cheap) and having an 

abundance of discarded tires along side the road in my area, I will go 

the tire route.  This will also please my wife since I will be greening 

the landscape.  Reduce, reuse, recycle, repair. 



Dan Wilde

N948DW

raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: Rubber Spacers on main gear

Greetings,



    Is anyone out there using the radius plates from Grove instead of or in 

combination with the "rubber" blocks?  I am planning on using them and 

wondered about the metal on metal issue.



http://www.groveaircraft.com/radiusplates.html



Thanks,

Raymond Julian

Kettle River, MN



"Hope for the best,

but prepare for the worst."



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