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rmhou(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC 420W at home.  I called Garmin and was told that I can order their $125 connector kit to build my cable. 

 The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a D-subminiature 78-pin connector.  Mouser has them for around $10.  But Garmin tech told me that their connectors are not "computer connector" but "aviation connector"; at $125, it sure feel like aviation grade and 

price. 

 Would this work: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2fj%252b8r7ekpZ... 

  

 Thanks in advance. 

  

 Robin Hou 

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Larry Bowen

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 802
Location: NC, USA

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

Sounds like a load of bull to me.  Try it.

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Larry(at)BowenAero.com

http://BowenAero.com

Sent from: Welcome NC United States. 



On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com (rmhou(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]  I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC 420W at home.  I called Garmin and was told that I can order their $125 connector kit to build my cable. 

 The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a D-subminiature 78-pin connector.  Mouser has them for around $10.  But Garmin tech told me that their connectors are not "computer connector" but "aviation connector"; at $125, it sure feel like aviation grade and 

 price. 

 Would this work: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2fj%252b8r7ekpZ... 

  

 Thanks in advance. 

  

 Robin Hou 





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rjquillin

Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 123
Location: KSEE

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

Bad link for me, but if it's anything like the Apollo, nee, Garmin GNS-480 they're all standard or high-density D-connectors.  You're pulling the unit out of the tube and flying it at home by directly plugging in the connectors to the rear of the unit, right?  Just use a good connector and don't damage any pins.

 Ron Q.



 At 16:02 3/30/2009, you wrote:

 [quote]I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC 420W at home.  I called Garmin and was told that I can order their $125 connector kit to build my cable. 

 The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a D-subminiature 78-pin connector.  Mouser has them for around $10.  But Garmin tech told me that their connectors are not "computer connector" but "aviation connector"; at $125, it sure feel like aviation grade and 

 price. 

 Would this work:  http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2fj%252b8r7ekpZ...  

  

 Thanks in advance. 

  

 Robin Hou 



 

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tim2542(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

Let us know if you find one that fits please!  

Tim Andres  

         

  

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Sounds like a load of bull to me.  Try it.

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 Larry(at)BowenAero.com

 http://BowenAero.com

 Sent from: Welcome NC United   States.     

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com (rmhou(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:          

I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my   Garmin GNC 420W at home.  I called Garmin and was told that I can order   their $125 connector kit to build my cable.       

The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a   D-subminiature 78-pin connector.  Mouser has them for around $10.    But Garmin tech told me that their connectors are not "computer   connector" but "aviation connector"; at $125, it sure feel   like aviation grade and 

   price.       

Would this work: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2fj%252b8r7ekpZ...      

      

    

      

Thanks in advance.       

    

      

Robin Hou    

   

   

        

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bakerocb

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 727
Location: FAIRFAX VA

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

3/31/2009



Hello Robin Hou, You wrote: "I want to build a power cable so I can practice 

using my Garmin GNC 420W at home."



I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free 

Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down 

load:



https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301



I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better 

than anything that you could set up.



'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and 

understand knowledge."

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Time: 04:07:30 PM PST US

From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: Avionics-List: 400W/420W/430W Power cable



I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC 420W at

 home. -I called Garmin and was told that I can order their $125 connecto

r kit to build my cable.



The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a D-subminiature 78-pi

n connector. -Mouser has them for around $10. -But Garmin tech told me

that their connectors are not "computer connector" but "aviation connector"

; at $125, it sure feel like aviation grade and

price.



Would this work: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2f

j%252b8r7ekpZ...

-

Thanks in advance.



-

Robin Hou

jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:59:21AM -0400, bakerocb(at)cox.net wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free 

 Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down 

 load:



 https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301



 I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better 

 than anything that you could set up.


	


I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS version, and the included

firmware is a version behind.

-- 

Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI      http://www.conmicro.com

http://jmaynard.livejournal.com       http://www.tronguy.net

Fairmont, MN (KFRM)                        (Yes, that's me!)

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kcarey(at)alum.mit.edu
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:06 am Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

Garmin has available on their web site

(https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID=8052)

 the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0.



Kevin Carey 



On Tue Mar 31 10:26 , Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com> sent:



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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:59:21AM -0400, bakerocb(at)cox.net wrote:

> I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free 

> Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down 

> load:

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301
	


 	  Quote: 	
		  >

> I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better 

> than anything that you could set up.



I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS version, and the included

firmware is a version behind.

-- 

Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI      http://www.conmicro.com

http://jmaynard.livejournal.com       http://www.tronguy.net

Fairmont, MN (KFRM)                        (Yes, that's me!)

AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml

jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:03:01PM -0400, kcarey(at)alum.mit.edu wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Garmin has available on their web site

 (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID=8052)

  the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0.


	


Glad to hear it. I'll update my copy.

-- 

Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI      http://www.conmicro.com

http://jmaynard.livejournal.com       http://www.tronguy.net

Fairmont, MN (KFRM)                        (Yes, that's me!)

AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml

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bakerocb

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 727
Location: FAIRFAX VA

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:22 am Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

4/1/2009



Hello Guys, Aren't we getting a bit jumbled up here?



1) OC suggested Robin Hou use this page to download a 420 trainer:



https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301



2) Jay Maynard wrote: "I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS 

version, and the included

firmware is a version behind."



That puzzled me because that page led me to a WAAS version and it was 

version 3.0 software for the 400 series trainer. Is there something better 

and newer?



3) Kevin Carey wrote: "Garmin has available on their web site

(https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID52) 

the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0."



True enough, but that page is the 530 trainer. How would that work out for a 

guy with a 420?



Robin Hou please write and tell us that we haven't led you completely 

astray.



'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and 

understand knowledge."



=======================================================



Time: 07:34:54 AM PST US

From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com>

Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:59:21AM -0400, bakerocb(at)cox.net wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free

 Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down

 load:



 https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301



 I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better

 than anything that you could set up.


	


I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS version, and the included

firmware is a version behind.

-- 

Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI      http://www.conmicro.com

http://jmaynard.livejournal.com       http://www.tronguy.net

Fairmont, MN (KFRM)                        (Yes, that's me!)

AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml

________________________________  Message 3 

_____________________________________

Time: 09:06:15 AM PST US

Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

From: <kcarey(at)alum.mit.edu>

Garmin has available on their web site

(https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID52)

 the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0.



Kevin Carey



On Tue Mar 31 10:26 , Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com> sent:



 	  Quote: 	
		  

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:59:21AM -0400, bakerocb(at)cox.net wrote:

> I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free

> Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down

> load:

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301
	


 	  Quote: 	
		  >

> I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better

> than anything that you could set up.



I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS version, and the included

firmware is a version behind.

-- 

Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI      http://www.conmicro.com

http://jmaynard.livejournal.com       http://www.tronguy.net

Fairmont, MN (KFRM)                        (Yes, that's me!)

AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml

jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:20 am Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 08:21:21AM -0400, bakerocb(at)cox.net wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   That puzzled me because that page led me to a WAAS version and it was 

 version 3.0 software for the 400 series trainer. Is there something better 

 and newer?


	


No. It turns out that's the version I have on my computer. It's still behind

my year-old 430W; I'm going to have to go out to the airport and see what

version the one in the airplane is running now.



 	  Quote: 	
		   3) Kevin Carey wrote: "Garmin has available on their web site

 (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID52) 

 the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0."



 True enough, but that page is the 530 trainer. How would that work out for 

 a guy with a 420?


	


It's the same trainer for all of them. There's an option setting to select

which unit you want it to act like.

-- 

Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI      http://www.conmicro.com

http://jmaynard.livejournal.com       http://www.tronguy.net

Fairmont, MN (KFRM)                        (Yes, that's me!)

AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml

_________________
Jay Maynard, K5ZC
AMD Zodiac XLi N55ZC

rmhou(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:05 am Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

Hi Listers,

  

 Thanks for all your replies.  Yes, I am aware that Garmin has a software trainer.  But my intent is to run the unit, not just to learn to use it.  I went ahead and ordered a D-Sub 78-pin male connector.  I will report back in about a week to let you know if the connector worked.

  

 Thanks again.

  

 Robin Hou

  

  



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rmhou(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

Hi Listers,

  

 I am happy to report back that my $10 D-Sub 78-pin male connector from Mouser works fine for my at-home-power-cable.  I connected pin 19 & 20 to +12v, and 75, 77 & 78 to negative.  The 420W powered up in demo mode just fine.

  

 Thanks to all who replied.

  

 Robin



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bakerocb

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 727
Location: FAIRFAX VA

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:35 am Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

4/4/2009



Hello Robin, Please tell me more about this demo mode. How does one get into 

it and use it? I can't find out anything about it in my 430W manual.



If you have the Garmin trainer on your computer how does the demo mode 

compare to the trainer?



Thanks.



'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and 

understand knowledge."



=============================================



Time: 02:57:59 PM PST US

From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable



Hi Listers,

-

I am happy to report back that my $10 D-Sub 78-pin male connector from Mous

er works fine for my at-home-power-cable.- I connected pin 19 & 20 to +12

v, and-75, 77 & 78 to negative.- The 420W powered up in demo mode just

fine.

-

Thanks to-all who replied.

-

Robin

rmhou(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

Hi Bakerocb,

  

 Sorry for the late reply.  We took a trip from our home base in So. Cal. to Carlsbad, NM.  We just got back tonight after 5 hours flighting turbulence and 50 knt headwind.  That is a story for another day.

  

 The demo mode is activated by grounding pin 75 when power up.  Once up, you can access "Demo Setup" screen by hitting "MENU" key until it shows up. From this "Demo Setup" screen, you can enter TRK, GS, POS, ALT, VS, and select to "MOVE" or "STOP".  Make your desired changes then "ENT" follow by "MENU" for changes to take place.

  

 The PC trainer is easy to use and you can leave your 400W in your plane.  But I am new to the Garmin 400W world and I just want to play with my 420W from the comfort of my home.  Your choice 

  

 Regards,

  

 Robin Hou

 64 S35 N7947K

 KEMT



--- On Sat, 4/4/09, bakerocb(at)cox.net <bakerocb(at)cox.net> wrote:



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Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com, avionics-list(at)matronics.com, rmhou(at)yahoo.com

Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 11:29 AM



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		  4/4/2009



Hello Robin, Please tell me more about this demo mode. How does one get into it

and use it? I can't find out anything about it in my 430W manual.



If you have the Garmin trainer on your computer how does the demo mode compare

to the trainer?



Thanks.



'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to

gather and understand knowledge."



====================



Time: 02:57:59 PM PST US

From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable



Hi Listers,

-

I am happy to report back that my $10 D-Sub 78-pin male connector from Mous

er works fine for my at-home-power-cable.- I connected pin 19 & 20 to +12

v, and-75, 77 & 78 to negative.- The 420W powered up in demo mode just

fine.

-

Thanks to-all who replied.

-

Robin



	
	


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