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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:10 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

I responded to a post about the way my emails are formatted. Â I didn't see any responses. Â Is anyone still there???? New Deals on Dell Netbooks - Now starting at $299 

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Gary
AuCountry Aviation
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:13 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

teamgrumman(at)aol.com wrote:

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		   I responded to a post about the way my emails are formatted.  I didn't 

 see any responses.  Is anyone still there????

Nobody's left.  You're alone. Scary, isn't it?
	


Sorry, I'm in a weird mood.  I think we're all in the same formatting 

bucket.  I don't see your emails any different than any others.



I do have an issue with emails that have 'frames' in them which makes it 

difficult, if not impossible, to trim excess stuff from them.  Maybe 

with the collective genius of this group we can get things sorted out!

Linn

GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

What do you mean by frames? 

 

  I changed the output type. Â Does my text still come through funny? Â It has always looked fine on my end but some have complained that it looks funny on their end.

 

 

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Gary
AuCountry Aviation
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

teamgrumman(at)AOL.COM (teamgrumman(at)AOL.COM) wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		  What do you mean by frames? 	
 Frames are boxes around an item.  Sometimes when a page is loaded you'll see the frames as blank or grey areas thet get filled with a picture later on ....  a result of poor HTML (HyperText Markup Language) programming of the web page.

 

 In my emails that have been forwarded multiple times, each forward address is contained in it's own frame, and they're nested inside one another.  They show up as 'boxes' around stuff.  Some have it, some don't, and they sure mess things up when I try to forward it.   I think it comes from the sender picking 'send in HTML and plain text' when they send stuff, but I haven't been able to verify that.

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		     I changed the output type.  Does my text still come through funny?  It has always looked fine on my end but some have complained that it looks funny on their end.

   

 	
 It always looked fine .... and this one did too.

 Linn

 

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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

I have never seen the frames on my end. Â I wonder if it has something to do with the provider.

 

 

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Gary
AuCountry Aviation
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david(at)troup.net
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

For what it's worth, I subscribe to the Digest version of the list  

too.  I agree with the previous message, from a few days ago, that  

postings which contain a long thread of previous messages and replies  

make reading the digest pretty much impossible, so I appreciate it  

when folks don't send pages of extraneous stuff.  Messages with a  

little history tacked on aren't a big deal, but sometimes it can be  

pages and pages and tens of pages of old replies, and the whole digest  

can be a hundred pages long.



Gary, for some reason, your messages come through strangely.  After  

each sentence, for example, it always says "=C2-."  So a long mail is  

a series of sentences, with =C2- after each one.  I don't get that  

from anyone else's messages posted to the list, so it seems to be  

something in the way your email software is configured.  (Linn's  

messages, for example, come through without any strangeness.)



I've gotten used to reading around the strange formatting, so it's not  

a huge problem for me, but since you asked, I thought I'd let you know.



Dave

az_gila

Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 99
Location: Tucson, AZ

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

Gary's messages come through to me with capital 

"A"s and funny accent marks in them.   gil A



Like this --



All of the reports, forms, paperwork, and data 

have all been submitted to the FAA. Â It's in 

their hands now. Â The DER says I should have the 

STC in a couple of weeks. Â But, I think he lives in dog years. Â



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		  Gary, for some reason, your messages come through strangely.  After

each sentence, for example, it always says "=C2-."  So a long mail is

a series of sentences, with =C2- after each one.  I don't get that

from anyone else's messages posted to the list, so it seems to be

something in the way your email software is configured.  (Linn's

messages, for example, come through without any strangeness.)



Dave

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:49 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

Sorryfor the length, but this will have both emails in it!!!!  

OK, now we're getting somewhere.  I Googled  (Google is my friend .... I 

find everything that way) '=C2-' and found one email exchange on a 

gaming site!  The problem is "quotable printable mime encoding". 

I use Thunderbird as my email client since Netscape went away.

Anyway, I Googled that and went here: 

http://bugclub.org/beginners/networking/mime.html

Now, this gets really funny!  The page is from a local computer club 

that I was a member of, and the page was written by a good friend of 

mine!!!  How cool is that!!!

OK, now I'm a little more knowledgeable, and click on 'tools' then 

'options' and select 'composition' and there, WITH A CHECKMARK!!!  is 

the selection for "quotable printable mime encoding".  I have no clue 

why Gary's emails have the extraneous stuff and mine don't, but there is 

the fix.  I removed the checkmark on my system.

Linn

Gil Alexander wrote:

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 <gilalex(at)earthlink.net>

 Gary's messages come through to me with capital "A"s and funny accent 

 marks in them.   gil A

 Like this --

 All of the reports, forms, paperwork, and data have all been submitted 

 to the FAA. Â It's in their hands now. Â The DER says I should have 

 the STC in a couple of weeks. Â But, I think he lives in dog years. Â

> Gary, for some reason, your messages come through strangely.  After

> each sentence, for example, it always says "=C2-."  So a long mail is

> a series of sentences, with =C2- after each one.  I don't get that

> from anyone else's messages posted to the list, so it seems to be

> something in the way your email software is configured.  (Linn's

> messages, for example, come through without any strangeness.)

>

> Dave

GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

I changed the formatting on my output. Â Does it still show weird characters? 

 

  I've had a few recipients of my emails say the output it weird. Â I'm not sure what causes it. Â 

  

 

  Let me know if they are still there. Â I'll try another format for the output if that doesn't work.

  

 

  Gary

 

 

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AuCountry Aviation
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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

Mine saysÂ  

 

  (Preferences): Â Default Encoding: Western (ISO Latin 1)

  (View):Â Western (ISO Latin 1)

    

 

  Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web.  Try the new Email Toolbar now! 

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Gary
AuCountry Aviation
Home of Team Grumman

az_gila

Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 99
Location: Tucson, AZ

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

I'm still getting many capital A with two dots 

over it spread out in the message when it shows 

up in my Eudora.  Maybe they are tab characters?  gil A



At 09:48 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

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		  Mine saysÂ



(Preferences): Â Default Encoding: Western (ISO Latin 1)

(View):Â Western (ISO Latin 1)

david(at)troup.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

Gary, your latest message still has the =C2- after each sentence.   

I'll reproduce it below, maybe you can see them too.



Dave



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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:04 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

Do you speak any other dead languages???   

 

 Go with Western (ISO 8859-1) and see if that helps.

 Linn

 

 teamgrumman(at)aol.com (teamgrumman(at)aol.com) wrote: [quote]Mine says    

   

   (Preferences):  Default Encoding: Western (ISO Latin 1)

   (View): Western (ISO Latin 1)

   

   

   

      Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! 

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david(at)newlangsyne.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

# I responded to a post about the way my emails are formatted.

# =C2-I didn' t see any responses.  =C2-Is anyone still there????



Guilty.  Sorry, I've been a little overloaded this week.



I only use Microsoft products for email.  Not because I like them, but that's

what the boss provides.



What the user sees is a combination of how the sender formats the mail, and

how the receiver's email program renders it.  You can't do much about the

readout.  For MS Outlook Express, I've posted a blow-by-blow description of

how to change the settings here:

    http://newlangsyne.com/etc/encoding.pdf

It includes screen shots.



Linn posted a link with instructions for Thunderbird.



If you use Vista, my condolences.  What used to be Outlook Express, is now

called Windows Mail or something similar.  My link will get you through that

one.



MS-Outlook is similar:

    Tools >> Options >> Mail Format

    Select "Plain Text" from the three choices in the Message Format area



If you use something else, I don't know what to say.  Somewhere there is a

menu that leads you to setup options.  Find it, and adjust the MIME encoding.



    * * * Character set has nothing to do with this. * * *

flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:43 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

I changed the formatting on my output.  Does  it still show weird characters?  



 I've had a few recipients of my emails say the output it weird.   I'm not sure what causes it.  

 



 Let me know if they are still there.  I'll try another format  for the output if that doesn't work.

 



 Gary



 Looks fine to me now (see above).

  

 Cliff



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bhauskne(at)san.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

Gary's last message came in fine over my Google gmail system.  No special characters.  Sounds like an issue with the receiving email client.  Suggest you try using Gmail for your email.  You can set up a free account and get all of your email coming to the one Gmail client.  The email will be tagged with the appropriate email account (I have 5 different accounts coming to Gmail). Nice thing is you can access it from any computer with web access and the storage capacity for email is enormous.

  Cheers!

 --Brian

 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:18 AM, David Troup <david(at)troup.net (david(at)troup.net)> wrote:

 [quote]--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: David Troup <david(at)troup.net (david(at)troup.net)>

 

Gary, your latest message still has the =C2- after each sentence.  I'll reproduce it below, maybe you can see them too.



Dave



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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

I changed to: Â Mac OS Roman 

 

  How does it look now.

  

 

  

 

  PS: Until a few days ago, it was set on: Â Default. Â 

 

 

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Gary
AuCountry Aviation
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: Posting on Team-Grumman

Gary, It looks OK to me.  However, it always did!!!  

The problem could be a combination of what you sent and how it was 

received by those with the mime problem.  I have received emails before 

with the 'weird stuff', but not from you.

Linn



teamgrumman(at)aol.com wrote:

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		   I changed to:  Mac OS Roman



 How does it look now.

 PS: Until a few days ago, it was set on:  Default.

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