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GrummanDude

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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: Formatting

Hey, I found a check box that says, "Always use Rich Text/HTML Editing"



Is that supposed to be on or off?



I just turned it off.

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az_gila

Joined: 17 Jun 2006
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Location: Tucson, AZ

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: Formatting

No stray capital foreign letters in this post.



It did the trick...:^)



gil A



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Hey, I found a check box that says, "Always use Rich Text/HTML Editing"



Is that supposed to be on or off?



I just turned it off.

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GrummanDude

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: Formatting

I did a reset to default values and it turns it ("Always use Rich 

Text/HTML Editing") back on.  Weird.  Maybe that is some sort of hold 

over from the early DOS (Dumb Operating System) days.

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: Formatting

This is the first message I've gotten from you (via the list) that  

doesn't have weird formatting, Gary.  So I'd say that you should leave  

the settings where they are now (at least from my perspective...  

hopefully the latest change hasn't messed things up for anyone else!)



Dave



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 I did a reset to default values and it turns it ("Always use Rich

 Text/HTML Editing") back on.  Weird.  Maybe that is some sort of hold

 over from the early DOS (Dumb Operating System) days.

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GrummanDude

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: Formatting

Does anyone know what the "Always use Rich Text/HTML Editing" means?



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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:48 am Post subject: Formatting

I'll try ...... 'rich text' has embedded formatting information to control the text such as character size, bold, colors etc. and the HTML editing refers to the modification of the HTML (HyperText Markup Language) which is the code that makes up web pages.

 

 With rich text turned on, you get text that's 'emphasized' (my term) and if it's turned off the text looks like (IMHO) it should ..... like it was typed on an old manual typewriter.

 

 The big problem is (and I don't know either) you can't tell if the recipient sees red text or black.   In this case the word 'red' was typed in red, not black.

 

 HTML is always evolving, and present capability is far greater than the HTML that I wrote many years ago.  Programmers like to write 'cool' code which has found it's way into email which created the problem we're thrashing right now.  And all we want is to send a simple message.

 Linn

 

 

 

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 Does anyone know what the "Always use Rich Text/HTML Editing" means?   

   

   

   

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aa1bflyboy

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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:13 am Post subject: Formatting

Lynn is correct. Yes Linn C the word red was in red text just as my signature line is red and bold text. Yes I have the rich text on here.



 

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  Date: Tue C 14 Apr 2009 07:46:09 -0400

From: pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Formatting



I'll try ...... 'rich text' has embedded formatting information to control the text such as character size C bold C colors etc. and the HTML editing refers to the modification of the HTML (HyperText Markup Language) which is the code that makes up web pages.



With rich text turned on C you get text that's 'emphasized' (my term) and if it's turned off the text looks like (IMHO) it should ..... like it was typed on an old manual typewriter.



The big problem is (and I don't know either) you can't tell if the recipient sees red text or black.   In this case the word 'red' was typed in red C not black.



HTML is always evolving C and present capability is far greater than the HTML that I wrote many years ago.  Programmers like to write 'cool' code which has found it's way into email which created the problem we're thrashing right now.  And all we want is to send a simple message.

Linn



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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: Formatting

Let me essplain.. no, there ees too much. Let mea summa up:



Email wasn't built to handle *fonts*, much less *graphics.*



Note my asterisks above - from many, many years of working with 

"straight" email and USENET groups, where emphasis is provided by 

*things like this* or _things like this_, etc.

When email was devised, text - the message - was important. There 

weren't any easy ways to handle graphics. Hell, there was almost nothing 

*creating* graphics!  Attempts to extend it later ran into the problem 

that nobody agreed with anybody else on how.



So mail has to be "crammed" into "7 Byte ASCII" (If you don't know what 

that is, it really doesn't matter, just trust me.)

But as email has expanded - and gone from systems that were text-only 

with local users to being worldwide communication where people expect 

pretty pictures, various hacks and tricks have been used to cobble on 

various add-ons. But they've got to, somehow, cram into 7-byte ASCII.  

And then get uncrammed when it gets to where it's going.  And possibly 

by anybody in the middle (Scanning for spam, viruses, the like.)



Your computer has to convert it - and then it sends it to another 

computer that takes it, and possibly converts it slightly differently.  

(And then you get to the fun part that Microsoft did their own thing 

(_again_) and uses some characters that nobody else does, but there's a 

LOT of Microsoft systems out there doing that..... )



Anyway.  So the safest thing to do is to turn off "Rich Text"/HTML.

 Then everybody talks (mostly) the same without conversions back and forth.

Especially since I haven't seen any discussions using/requiring HTML.



http://www.birdhouse.org/etc/evilmail.html



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 Does anyone know what the "Always use Rich Text/HTML Editing" means?



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GrummanDude

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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: Formatting

The one thing I noticed almost immediately once I turned off Rich Text 

was that some emails, like Cliffs, get completely double spaced when I 

replied to his.  I deleted his message.  Oh and it had > on every line.



This one only double spaces between paragraphs as you can see 

(hopefully).  Plus, the text is crowded into a narrower column.



I guess I expected too much from email.

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