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Cabin Top to Tailcone Forward Top Skin

 
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LarryRosen



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Cabin Top to Tailcone Forward Top Skin Reply with quote

I have finally attached the Tailcone Forward Top Skin (F-1074) and now I
need to fill in the gap between the cabin top the aluminum skin. This
is the method I was going to use to fill in the gap. I am also going to
use the same method to fill the side of the cabin top the the fuselage
skin. I am looking for comments.

First I will scuff the fiberglass and aluminum with 80 grit sandpaper.
Thoroughly clean the surfaces with acetone.
Apply a blend of west epoxy, cabosil and flox to fill in the low spots.
I will keep this fill about 1/8" low
Allow the epoxy mix to set up, but while still tacky then apply 2 strips
of fiberglass cloth cut on a 45.
Allow to cure over night.
Apply superfil to fair and fill any low spots
Sand and refill until smooth and fair.

Larry Rosen
#356


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Deems Davis



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:07 am    Post subject: Cabin Top to Tailcone Forward Top Skin Reply with quote

Larry, That's exactly what I did, EXCEPT I did NOT apply the fiberglass
strips to these joints (I DID apply to all of the window joints). My
opinion is that I've yet to hear/see/witness any cracking along the pop
riveted seams, and the application of the fiberglass cloth is only to
help hide/minimize this potential. It also adds to the buildup and makes
fairing/blending a little more difficult. with the windows, your
basically blending /fairing only in one direction - away from the window.

Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....
http://deemsrv10.com/

Larry Rosen wrote:
Quote:


I have finally attached the Tailcone Forward Top Skin (F-1074) and now
I need to fill in the gap between the cabin top the aluminum skin.
This is the method I was going to use to fill in the gap. I am also
going to use the same method to fill the side of the cabin top the the
fuselage skin. I am looking for comments.

First I will scuff the fiberglass and aluminum with 80 grit sandpaper.
Thoroughly clean the surfaces with acetone.
Apply a blend of west epoxy, cabosil and flox to fill in the low
spots. I will keep this fill about 1/8" low
Allow the epoxy mix to set up, but while still tacky then apply 2
strips of fiberglass cloth cut on a 45.
Allow to cure over night.
Apply superfil to fair and fill any low spots
Sand and refill until smooth and fair.

Larry Rosen
#356



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Cabin Top to Tailcone Forward Top Skin Reply with quote

Looks good, I did the same thing except skipped the cloth as I have my ideas
of cloth on aluminum causing cracks in the paint later.
I just filled with epoxy and flox/cabosil, sanded and final coat epoxy
cabosil, probably no different than the cloth in regards to cracking the
paint later but that's what I did.

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Subject: Cabin Top to Tailcone Forward Top Skin

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I have finally attached the Tailcone Forward Top Skin (F-1074) and now I
need to fill in the gap between the cabin top the aluminum skin. This is
the method I was going to use to fill in the gap. I am also going to use
the same method to fill the side of the cabin top the the fuselage skin.
I am looking for comments.

First I will scuff the fiberglass and aluminum with 80 grit sandpaper.
Thoroughly clean the surfaces with acetone.
Apply a blend of west epoxy, cabosil and flox to fill in the low spots. I
will keep this fill about 1/8" low
Allow the epoxy mix to set up, but while still tacky then apply 2 strips
of fiberglass cloth cut on a 45.
Allow to cure over night.
Apply superfil to fair and fill any low spots
Sand and refill until smooth and fair.

Larry Rosen
#356




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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Cabin Top to Tailcone Forward Top Skin Reply with quote

Deems,
Did you cover up both rivet lines (the pop rivets to the cabin top and
the solid rivets to the bulk head?

Larry

Deems Davis wrote:
Quote:


Larry, That's exactly what I did, EXCEPT I did NOT apply the
fiberglass strips to these joints (I DID apply to all of the window
joints). My opinion is that I've yet to hear/see/witness any cracking
along the pop riveted seams, and the application of the fiberglass
cloth is only to help hide/minimize this potential. It also adds to
the buildup and makes fairing/blending a little more difficult. with
the windows, your basically blending /fairing only in one direction -
away from the window.

Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....
http://deemsrv10.com/

Larry Rosen wrote:
>
>
> I have finally attached the Tailcone Forward Top Skin (F-1074) and
> now I need to fill in the gap between the cabin top the aluminum
> skin. This is the method I was going to use to fill in the gap. I
> am also going to use the same method to fill the side of the cabin
> top the the fuselage skin. I am looking for comments.
>
> First I will scuff the fiberglass and aluminum with 80 grit sandpaper.
> Thoroughly clean the surfaces with acetone.
> Apply a blend of west epoxy, cabosil and flox to fill in the low
> spots. I will keep this fill about 1/8" low
> Allow the epoxy mix to set up, but while still tacky then apply 2
> strips of fiberglass cloth cut on a 45.
> Allow to cure over night.
> Apply superfil to fair and fill any low spots
> Sand and refill until smooth and fair.
>
> Larry Rosen
> #356
>


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Deems Davis



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Cabin Top to Tailcone Forward Top Skin Reply with quote

Yes

Deems

Larry Rosen wrote:
Quote:


Deems,
Did you cover up both rivet lines (the pop rivets to the cabin top and
the solid rivets to the bulk head?

Larry

Deems Davis wrote:
>
>
> Larry, That's exactly what I did, EXCEPT I did NOT apply the
> fiberglass strips to these joints (I DID apply to all of the window
> joints). My opinion is that I've yet to hear/see/witness any
> cracking along the pop riveted seams, and the application of the
> fiberglass cloth is only to help hide/minimize this potential. It
> also adds to the buildup and makes fairing/blending a little more
> difficult. with the windows, your basically blending /fairing only
> in one direction - away from the window.
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
> Larry Rosen wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have finally attached the Tailcone Forward Top Skin (F-1074) and
>> now I need to fill in the gap between the cabin top the aluminum
>> skin. This is the method I was going to use to fill in the gap. I
>> am also going to use the same method to fill the side of the cabin
>> top the the fuselage skin. I am looking for comments.
>>
>> First I will scuff the fiberglass and aluminum with 80 grit sandpaper.
>> Thoroughly clean the surfaces with acetone.
>> Apply a blend of west epoxy, cabosil and flox to fill in the low
>> spots. I will keep this fill about 1/8" low
>> Allow the epoxy mix to set up, but while still tacky then apply 2
>> strips of fiberglass cloth cut on a 45.
>> Allow to cure over night.
>> Apply superfil to fair and fill any low spots
>> Sand and refill until smooth and fair.
>>
>> Larry Rosen
>> #356
>>



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