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mr.sun
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 Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: Broken Canopy Corner |
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Hi, Listers,
I just broke a 4" sliver of the corner of my RV7 tipup canopy off. After uttering the appropriate words and feeling really mad about the whole thing, I made some metal modifications on the passenger seatback that was hitting the corner each time it was closed with the seatback in a forward position. That won't happen again!
Anyway, now I want to cement the corner piece back on with as much of an invisible weld as possible. I purchased some "Weld-on" canopy repair that came with a little syringe application bottle. It sure looks like the typical PVC glue although it says specifically made for acrylic, plexiglass etc. I'm a little worried that it may not be quite the best material out there.
Any advice? I'd like to make as good of a repair as I can without removing the canopy from the frame.
Thanks in advance......
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Weld-on #3 is the best stuff for glueing canopy material. It has been used by many others (me included) in your situation.
If you still have some scrap left over from your canopy, try making a few test coupons first. You'll find that the glued joint is almost as strong as the original material.
Jeff Point
RV-6 w/ cracked canopy
Milwaukee
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I went one further and fixed the defect then covered the repair with a 'targa strip'. Seems worth the trouble and now makes a really nice seal.
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Jeff Point <jpoint(at)mindspring.com (jpoint(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Weld-on #3 is the best stuff for glueing canopy material. It has been used by many others (me included) in your situation.
If you still have some scrap left over from your canopy, try making a few test coupons first. You'll find that the glued joint is almost as strong as the original material.
Jeff Point
RV-6 w/ cracked canopy
Milwaukee
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mr.sun
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What's a Targa Strip? Pics?
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:50 PM, David Leonard <wdleonard(at)gmail.com (wdleonard(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] I went one further and fixed the defect then covered the repair with a 'targa strip'. Seems worth the trouble and now makes a really nice seal.
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David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Jeff Point <jpoint(at)mindspring.com (jpoint(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Weld-on #3 is the best stuff for glueing canopy material. It has been used by many others (me included) in your situation.
If you still have some scrap left over from your canopy, try making a few test coupons first. You'll find that the glued joint is almost as strong as the original material.
Jeff Point
RV-6 w/ cracked canopy
Milwaukee
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David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
[/url][url=http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net]http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
[/url][url=http://RotaryRoster.net]http://RotaryRoster.net
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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: Broken Canopy Corner |
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http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-6a/Exterior.aspx
See side photos of fiberglass strap (carbon fiber in my case) transition from front of tip up to rear windows.
Robin
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Subject: Re: Broken Canopy Corner
What's a Targa Strip? Pics?
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:50 PM, David Leonard <wdleonard(at)gmail.com (wdleonard(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I went one further and fixed the defect then covered the repair with a 'targa strip'. Seems worth the trouble and now makes a really nice seal.
--
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Jeff Point <jpoint(at)mindspring.com (jpoint(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:
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Weld-on #3 is the best stuff for glueing canopy material. It has been used by many others (me included) in your situation.
If you still have some scrap left over from your canopy, try making a few test coupons first. You'll find that the glued joint is almost as strong as the original material.
Jeff Point
RV-6 w/ cracked canopy
Milwaukee
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t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listttp://forums.matronics.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
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http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
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| Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: Broken Canopy Corner |
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Robin's pictures are excellent. My Targa strip looks the same, here is a low res picture:
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
I used only regular fiberglass (not carbon fiber).. but it still flys 
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com (robin1(at)mrmoisture.com)> wrote:
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http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-6a/Exterior.aspx
See side photos of fiberglass strap (carbon fiber in my case) transition from front of tip up to rear windows.
Robin
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| Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: Broken Canopy Corner |
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I used carbon fiber as a replacement stiffener to the fiberglass only after my shocks got tired and my canopy did not go fully up and I hit my head on the corner of the Targa corner while climbing in. No damage to my head but a really nice crack on the fiberglass Targa corner causing me much angst to repair & repaint. I think I would have preferred a crack in my head and not the Targa strip. IMHO the tip ups don’t look finished w/o the Targa strip.
Since we are on the subject of finish work on a tip up. Another nice feature on my 6A is the fiberglass cover to the underside of the tip un just above the avionics.
[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01C9BE8E.7B1818A0[/img]
Robin
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: Broken Canopy Corner
Robin's pictures are excellent. My Targa strip looks the same, here is a low res picture:
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
I used only regular fiberglass (not carbon fiber).. but it still flys
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com (robin1(at)mrmoisture.com)> wrote:
http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-6a/Exterior.aspx
See side photos of fiberglass strap (carbon fiber in my case) transition from front of tip up to rear windows.
Robin
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of mr.gsun(at)gmail.com (mr.gsun(at)gmail.com)
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What's a Targa Strip? Pics?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: Broken Canopy Corner |
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Robin, Nice job. Do you have anything to cover Avionics from rain getting in? I velcro'd some sailcloth into place to direct it away from stuff. Greg
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The short answer is no. I have a hangar in moth of my commute locations plus a canopy cover that protects the entire hinge area. Plus I have some compressible door seal material (D shaped [pictured]) to keep rain / moisture out in general. I am sure others have done much more to prevent water / moisture from entering this area including you good idea of sail cloth. To date I have had no issues.
Robin
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Robin, Nice job. Do you have anything to cover Avionics from rain getting in? I velcro'd some sailcloth into place to direct it away from stuff. Greg
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com (robin1(at)mrmoisture.com)> wrote:
I used carbon fiber as a replacement stiffener to the fiberglass only after my shocks got tired and my canopy did not go fully up and I hit my head on the corner of the Targa corner while climbing in. No damage to my head but a really nice crack on the fiberglass Targa corner causing me much angst to repair & repaint. I think I would have preferred a crack in my head and not the Targa strip. IMHO the tip ups don’t look finished w/o the Targa strip.
Since we are on the subject of finish work on a tip up. Another nice feature on my 6A is the fiberglass cover to the underside of the tip un just above the avionics.
[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01C9BEA6.116BDD20[/img]
Robin
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From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:11 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Broken Canopy Corner
Robin's pictures are excellent. My Targa strip looks the same, here is a low res picture:
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
I used only regular fiberglass (not carbon fiber).. but it still flys
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com (robin1(at)mrmoisture.com)> wrote:
http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-6a/Exterior.aspx
See side photos of fiberglass strap (carbon fiber in my case) transition from front of tip up to rear windows.
Robin
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of mr.gsun(at)gmail.com (mr.gsun(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:02 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Broken Canopy Corner
What's a Targa Strip? Pics?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: Broken Canopy Corner |
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Well, the sailcloth works fine for the minor leak I get when flying in rain or clouds. The one I was real worried about was opening the canopy with a bunch of raindrops on the canopy. The sailcloth works there too. Looks more finished too, I think, when the canopy is open.
Back to the crack in the canopy, though. I'll cement it back together with the Weldon #3 and I have some real thick vinyl made for vinyl signage on vehicles that I'm thinking of using for a Targa stripe. It will be easy to put on and remove if it doesn't work. How do I fill the crack flush so the line of the crack doesn't show thru the vinyl? Bondo?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com (robin1(at)mrmoisture.com)> wrote:
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The short answer is no. I have a hangar in moth of my commute locations plus a canopy cover that protects the entire hinge area. Plus I have some compressible door seal material (D shaped [pictured]) to keep rain / moisture out in general. I am sure others have done much more to prevent water / moisture from entering this area including you good idea of sail cloth. To date I have had no issues.
Robin
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of mr.gsun(at)gmail.com (mr.gsun(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:41 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Broken Canopy Corner
Robin, Nice job. Do you have anything to cover Avionics from rain getting in? I velcro'd some sailcloth into place to direct it away from stuff. Greg
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com (robin1(at)mrmoisture.com)> wrote:
I used carbon fiber as a replacement stiffener to the fiberglass only after my shocks got tired and my canopy did not go fully up and I hit my head on the corner of the Targa corner while climbing in. No damage to my head but a really nice crack on the fiberglass Targa corner causing me much angst to repair & repaint. I think I would have preferred a crack in my head and not the Targa strip. IMHO the tip ups don’t look finished w/o the Targa strip.
Since we are on the subject of finish work on a tip up. Another nice feature on my 6A is the fiberglass cover to the underside of the tip un just above the avionics.
[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01C9BEA6.116BDD20[/img]
Robin
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:11 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Broken Canopy Corner
Robin's pictures are excellent. My Targa strip looks the same, here is a low res picture:
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
I used only regular fiberglass (not carbon fiber).. but it still flys
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com (robin1(at)mrmoisture.com)> wrote:
http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-6a/Exterior.aspx
See side photos of fiberglass strap (carbon fiber in my case) transition from front of tip up to rear windows.
Robin
Do Not Archive
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