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Jim Feldmann
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 Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:16 am Post subject: Sight guages |
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I would like to replace the old, discolored sight guage tubing on my wing tanks. Can someone tell me what tubing to use? What specifically do I look for and where might I find it.
Thanks.
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Tom Jones
Joined: 12 Mar 2006
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Location: Ellensburg, WA
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:19 am Post subject: Re: Sight guages |
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| Jim Feldmann wrote: | I would like to replace the old, discolored sight guage tubing on my wing tanks. Can someone tell me what tubing to use? What specifically do I look for and where might I find it.
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Jim, if you have the original hard butyrate tubes attached with plastic fittings, Kitfox aircraft LLC sells a sight gage kit you can replace it with. Here's a link to the catalog. The sight gage kit is on page 16.
http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/Product_Catalog/KApartscat-rev040109.pdf
If you already have the urethane tubes, the blue bing alcohol resistant fuel line seems to be the line of choice.
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FlyboyTR
Joined: 04 Nov 2006
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Location: Mobile, Alabama
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Sight guages |
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Our Vixen had the original hard plastic sight gauges. No problem…until they emptied about 20 gallons of fuel in the hanger! I have attached pictures of my mods. I replaced the existing with brass ¼” barbed fittings. I used the clear Tygon tubing. Inside is a piece of 12 gauge copper wire (regular house type wire). It helps to hold the shape and also makes seeing the fuel level easier. Prior to installing the barbed fittings, I inserted a stainless screw into the backside of the fitting and this is used as a dampener (so the fuel moves slowly in and out of the sight gauge…makes for a more stable reading). The copper wire goes inside the barbed fitting. Almost 250 hours with this set-up and I am still happy. I change the tubing annually.
Travis 
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Fox5flyer
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: Sight guages |
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Travis, that is pretty much the same thing that John Mc at KitfoxAircraft
sells and what I am also using. Works great, but I didn't use any sort of
dampener and after several years and lots of hours it doesn't seem to cause
much of a problem as it quickly returns to it's normal level, something I
didn't care for when I used the dampened, kit supplied units. Phew, long
sentence!
What I'd like is to find some clear tubing that won't discolor so quickly
and will last a few years as other than the discoloration I can't see much
reason to replace it annually. Mostly, it gets hard to read, especially in
low light, but remains pliable.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
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FlyboyTR
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Location: Mobile, Alabama
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Sight guages |
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Deke,
Yep...simple system that works! All I use is 100LL. They still turn dark but I don't think it is as bad as it is with autofuel. Some of the local guys with UL's use the same tubing (with autofuel) and theirs get darker much quicker than mine. I use the same Tygon clear tubing for my vent line from my header tank to the right tank. I sure which we could find a thick-walled clear tubing that help up good and wouldn't get dark. ...still looking!
Travis
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: Sight guages |
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I also got John's sight gauges, but if they came with the wires, I
didn't use them. I get a better picture (for me) by seeing the
movement of the fuel (100LL) in the tubes. The horizontal blue and
white lines behind the tubes make it easy to see where the fuel is,
and in three years the tubing is still clear...no darkening...another
plus for 100 LL apparently.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 632.8 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
On Apr 19, 2009, at 4:17 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
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Travis, that is pretty much the same thing that John Mc at
KitfoxAircraft sells and what I am also using. Works great, but I
didn't use any sort of dampener and after several years and lots of
hours it doesn't seem to cause much of a problem as it quickly
returns to it's normal level, something I didn't care for when I
used the dampened, kit supplied units. Phew, long sentence!
What I'd like is to find some clear tubing that won't discolor so
quickly and will last a few years as other than the discoloration I
can't see much reason to replace it annually. Mostly, it gets hard
to read, especially in low light, but remains pliable.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
progress."
- Joseph Joubert
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FlyboyTR
Joined: 04 Nov 2006
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Location: Mobile, Alabama
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Sight guages |
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I believe I am going to order some Tygothane from Lockwood...I guess it's possible there is a difference. The Tygon I was using was for fuel. Thanks...less work...more flying time!
Travis
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Mobile, AL
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Guy Buchanan
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
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Location: Ramona, CA
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: Sight guages |
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At 11:16 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
| Quote: | Can someone tell me what tubing to use? What specifically do I look
for and where might I find it.
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I used the blue "alcohol resistant" fuel line sold by Aircraft Spruce
and CPS (www.800-airwolf.com). I put a squirt tube from a WD-40 can
in each one to make them easier to read but next time I won't . It
didn't help any and they look shabby.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting
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