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d.goddard(at)ns.sympatico
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:14 pm    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote

With all the madness about Corvair engines these days it seems the Subaru
engine has left the field. Is this just a passing fad, or did the Subie have
some less than desirable quality that the Corvair engine lacks? Perhaps it's
down to a talented promoter.

Is nobody selecting the Subaru any longer?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote

Dave-
Choosing the Corvair can hardly be considered madness. I was originally
going to go with a Subaru installation, but it's heavier and quite a bit
more complex than something direct drive and air cooled. If you take your
glasses off, you'd swear a Corvair conversion was one of the 6 cyl
Continentals they used to put in C-172s. (O-345?) A case of where the auto
industry ripped off a proven design from aviation.
I don't think promotion is a factor. Pricewise, the two choices are
pretty equivalent. I have no idea what Subaru mod delivery times are, but
that has always been a sticking point for the Corvair.
Everything's a compromise.

Bill
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote

A language difficulty perhaps. Madness as in intense excitement.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote

Frequently used in homebuilding. Both interpretations apply.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote

The Subaru's are still around, I have about 90 hours on mine with no
engine problems. The downside on any water cooled engine is the design
of the cooling system. That is where Eggenfeller has an advantage with a
complete firewall forward package. With that said I did not by an
Eggenfeller, too expensive, I have a Stratus and have no complains about
the engine. I did spend the better part of a year designing my cooling
system, but that's why I plans built an airplane.

Tim Shankland

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With all the madness about Corvair engines these days it seems the
Subaru engine has left the field. Is this just a passing fad, or did
the Subie have some less than desirable quality that the Corvair
engine lacks? Perhaps it's down to a talented promoter.

Is nobody selecting the Subaru any longer?



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote

I just got back from SnF, where I saw Jerry Perryman's RV-9A that flew in from Conroe, TX. It has an EJ25 Subie that Bud Warren (geareddrives.com) modified with a rear mounted, 3 pass radiator and a new gearbox. Originally an Egg engine, Warren and Perryman flew in it to OSH last year and Bud was concerned about the high temps and gearbox noise, so he thought he could it do it better.

According to Perryman, his temps are now down 60F to 160, and he's tickled pink. Warren used off the shelf gear sets and other automotive components for the PSRU, which has the added advantage of easy gear ratio changes at about $200 per set. It also has its own enclosed lube system, using hypoid gear oil.

The PSRU prototype is as ugly as sin right now, since Warren started with a spare rectangular hunk of aluminum billet for the gear case, but it appears to be working. The radiator is prettier, though, but it's mostly hidden.

I took some photos if anyone's interested.

Rick Lindstrom
Zenvair N42KP

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote

Yup... lets see some photos...

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Ben Haas
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote

OK, here's a few.

Rick

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Whatever happened to Subies Reply with quote

Thank you sir.....
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Ben Haas
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