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jim jewell



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: O-360-A1A cylinder assembly Reply with quote

Poor ring seating due to glazing has me preparing to re-install the freshly redone top end.
I have an older Lycoming engine overhaul manual but the info in it is not specific to my engine.

I am seeking information regarding re-installation of pistons, rings and cylinders on my O-360-A1A narrow deck engine.
I'm hoping someone might be able to send me the pertinent pages or paragraphs from a Lycoming or Superior engine assembly manual.
Also I need the information section on how to establish the correct valve clearance by swapping out push rods.
A reference to a web page would work fine as well.


Jim in Kelowna (250) 861-8706

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: O-360-A1A cylinder assembly Reply with quote

If you have the roughly 1974 vintage Lycoming overhaul manual it IS the current manual!!!
Of course then you have to wade through the 2000 or so service bulletins, letters and instructions that they have issued since to modify said manual.
Incredibly, the FAA hasn't made Lycoming do an update incorporating all those service directives in almost 40 years.

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Poor ring seating due to glazing has me preparing to re-install the freshly redone top end.
I have an older Lycoming engine overhaul manual but the info in it is not specific to my engine.

I am seeking information regarding re-installation of pistons, rings and cylinders on my O-360-A1A narrow deck engine.
I'm hoping someone might be able to send me the pertinent pages or paragraphs from a Lycoming or Superior engine assembly manual.
Also I need the information section on how to establish the correct valve clearance by swapping out push rods.
A reference to a web page would work fine as well.


Jim in Kelowna (250) 861-8706

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: O-360-A1A cylinder assembly Reply with quote

Kelly,
You are incorrect regarding the 1974 version of Lycoming's Direct Drive Engine Overhaul Manual # 60294-7 being current. Since 1974, Lycoming as periodically updated the manual. Each update added a higher "dash" number after the 7. The current revision of the manual is 60294-7-12. The latest revision was released in July 2008. That said, you can simply obtain the various update pages to bring an older manual up to date.
Lycoming created the manual in a "loose leaf" design, to allow it to be updated by simply replacing outdated pages or adding new pages, as needed.

Jim,
You need Service Instruction 1060J to determine the proper method to determine dry tappet clearance and which push rods you will need. I'll send this document to you, off list. Kelly is correct that you need various Service Instruction and Service Bulletin documents, IN ADDITION TO the overhaul manual. Some of the SIs needed are mentioned in the overhaul manual.
Charlie Kuss

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If you have the roughly 1974 vintage Lycoming overhaul manual it IS the current manual!!!
Of course then you have to wade through the 2000 or so service bulletins, letters and instructions that they have issued since to modify said manual.
Incredibly, the FAA hasn't made Lycoming do an update incorporating all those service directives in almost 40 years.

Jim wrote:
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Poor ring seating due to glazing has me preparing to re-install the freshly redone top end.
I have an older Lycoming engine overhaul manual but the info in it is not specific to my engine.

I am seeking information regarding re-installation of pistons, rings and cylinders on my O-360-A1A narrow deck engine.
I'm hoping someone might be able to send me the pertinent pages or paragraphs from a Lycoming or Superior engine assembly manual.
Also I need the information section on how to establish the correct valve clearance by swapping out push rods.
A reference to a web page would work fine as well.


Jim in Kelowna (250) 861-8706

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: O-360-A1A cylinder assembly Reply with quote

"The latest revision was released in July 2008.":
Interesting. As of Fall 2001( last time I needed to O/H my engine), the 1974 version 60294-7 -7 was what was on then current official Advantext Lycoming 4 cyl CD. Them lawyers must have got busy to do 5 revisions in the last 7 years. It is about time, although I doubt they have changed much besides adding info for roller cams.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: O-360-A1A cylinder assembly Reply with quote

Jim:

All the Superior Engine manuals are on line at:
http://www.superiorairparts.com/vantageManuals.asp

Do not know how they differ from the Lycoming manuals.

I am not sure if the manual tells you how to collapse the lifter using a toothpick.  Kind of hard to explain on line.

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Date: Fri C 8 May 2009 16:34:33 -0700

Poor ring seating due to glazing has me preparing to re-install the freshly redone top end.
I have an older Lycoming engine overhaul manual but the info in it is not specific to my engine.
 
I am seeking information regarding re-installation of pistons C rings and cylinders on my O-360-A1A narrow deck engine.
I'm hoping someone might be able to send  me the pertinent pages or paragraphs from a Lycoming or Superior engine assembly manual.
Also I need the information section on how to establish the correct valve clearance by swapping out push rods.
A reference to a web page would work fine as well.
 
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: O-360-A1A cylinder assembly Reply with quote

Revision 60294-7-9 was released in June 2002. The rest came in the ensuing years. Most changed only a few pages.
Charlie

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"The latest revision was released in July 2008.":
Interesting. As of Fall 2001( last time I needed to O/H my engine), the 1974 version 60294-7 -7 was what was on then current official Advantext Lycoming 4 cyl CD. Them lawyers must have got busy to do 5 revisions in the last 7 years. It is about time, although I doubt they have changed much besides adding info for roller cams.

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