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pdn8r(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:09 am Post subject: What did you do today?

This is a great and encouraging thread. Lets keep it going.



I rolled her outside to day to see her in the Florida sun.  



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Bill Pagan  EAA Tech Counselor #4395

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PatrickW

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Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: What did you do today?

I learned how to weld, and then modified my Corvair valve covers, and made a firewall pass-through for the fuel line.



I'll clean these up tomorrow, and if I'm happy with how they turn out I'll paint them and install them.  If I don't like them I know I can fix them.



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GLJSOJ1

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
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Location: Chesapeake, Virginia

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: What did you do today?

I secured the air hoses inside the cowling and put everything back together and then taxied around the airport.  I have an inspection lined up in three weeks

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Larry Webber

Joined: 05 Jun 2008
Posts: 63
Location: West Kingston Rhode Island

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: What did you do today?

Hey ALL   

 i cut fit shaped and welded the oil filler pipe to the valve cover

 in the style WW suggested. yesterday i sliced the forward top skin

 and installed a rib splitter and instead of riveting i used riv nuts.

 this allows me to remove either side of top panel  without removing

 the entire panel (easier to work on inside instrument compartment)



 Larry Webber/601xl corvair chugger



  

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kkinney

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: What did you do today?

I worked on taming the rats nest behind the panel and putting shells on the DB connectors.  Oh, and EIS6000 fuel level thing.



Regards,

Kevin Kinney

craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: What did you do today?

I (re)powder coated one of the sub-panels on my instrument panel last night.

BTW: if you ever need to remove powder coat acetone didn't touch it but

Permatex Gasket Remover (item #80646) made short work of it. And it's "known

by the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other

reproductive harm"!



Today I'm mounting switches and instruments.



-- Craig

kmccune

Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 577
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:54 am Post subject: Re: What did you do today?

Made the flaperon rib form blocks yesterday and then cleaned up my so I could move around and find things. 



Kevin

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Gig Giacona

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Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: Re: What did you do today?

Installed ELT and worked on cabin heat muff.

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hansriet

Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Posts: 93

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:02 am Post subject: Re: What did you do today?

I researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has tips, it will be appreciated.

psm(at)att.net
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: What did you do today?

Hi Hans,



Harbor Freight has a nice selection of torque wrenches.  I have one 

of the smaller ones with 3/8 drive and a larger one too.



Paul

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At 07:02 AM 5/11/2009, you wrote:

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		  I researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has tips, it 

will be appreciated.

jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: What did you do today?

Everyone should have on their computer a copy of John Schwaner's "Mechanic's Toolbox".  There you will find everything you need to know about torque wrenches and their use; and lots and lots of other valuable stuff.

 

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carlossa52(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: What did you do today?

Kitplanes June 2009 mentions a digital wrench from Sears

About US$200, if I am not mistaken



Carlos



2009/5/11 hansriet <hansinla(at)mac.com (hansinla(at)mac.com)>

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: What did you do today?

For foot pounds the standard "torsion bar" or beam ones from Sears are

dandy. It is in the lower ranges (inch pounds) where it gets tough. The

imported "click" style don't keep their accuracy. To get a good "click"

torque wrench you have to spend some dough and get a name brand like

Snap-On.



You can have a good wrench and use it the wrong way and be way off. For

example on the beam wrenches the plastic handle pivots on the steel shaft

through an axle. If you don't hold it such that the handle is floating free

with the force only transmitted through the axle then the reading will be

off.



I went with a strain gauge based Computorq 3 from CDI. The 1/4 inch drive

model has a range of 2 to 20 foot pounds or 24 to 240 inch pounds. You enter

the target on the display and as you approach a yellow light comes on. When

you reach the target a green light comes on. Accompanying sound effects

allow you to torque where you can't see the wrench. Lots of people sell them

and prices vary widely - just google "cdi computorq3"



You can take the whole thing to an extreme. Some would have you calibrate

the wrench before each use. The section on torque in the Sky Ranch

Engineering Manual is a good read.



-- Craig



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Jeyoung65(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: What did you do today?

Not sure this is the best wrench for self-locking nuts. You  should check 

the torque required to run the bolt through on self-locking section  of the 

nuts and add it to the torque you are using. Most are well below 24 inch  

pounds.  Jerry of GA  DO NOT ARCHIVE

 

 

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: What did you do today?

Yes, I know. I posted the message below last year in March. I avoid the

issue by not reusing small self-locking nuts. What wrench do you use?



 



-- Craig



 



The stuff I read said that you measure the drag torque with your torque

wrench before the nut starts touching the surface to be clamped. For the

small nuts I couldn't do this with my CompuTorq3 electronic wrench as it

doesn't start registering until 20 or so inch-pounds. I guessed around 5

inch-pounds.  What I finally found that helped was table 7-2 in AC 43.13-1B

(Acceptable Methods.). "Minimum prevailing torque values for re-used

self-locking nuts". This tells you how much drag torque a SL nut needs to

have for it to be safe to reuse it. I reasoned that this must be a pretty

good guide to the minimum drag in a *new* SL nut.



 



For fine threads the table says:



 



7/16-20                 8 in-lbs



1/2-20                   10 in-lbs



9/16-18                 13 in-lbs

Larry Webber

Joined: 05 Jun 2008
Posts: 63
Location: West Kingston Rhode Island

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: What did you do today?

Craig  im new to powder coat painting   ? can you paint a powder paint over 

 an existing standard base paint provided you have sanded first?   i used a powder on my valve covers which i sand blasted C wire wheeled  and for  all purposes were raw metal finish

 i  then baked in oven 300  until no more smoke was visible cooled then powder painted and was very pleased with finish. they will be seen at CC#14 in Lowell Ma. on the 22nd of this month

 Larry



  

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		   From: craig(at)craigandjean.com

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Re: What did you do today?

 Date: Sun C 10 May 2009 19:45:10 -0600

 

 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig(at)craigandjean.com>

 

 I (re)powder coated one of the sub-panels on my instrument panel last night.

 BTW: if you ever need to remove powder coat acetone didn't touch it but

 Permatex Gasket Remover (item #80646) made short work of it. And it's "known

 by the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other

 reproductive harm"!

 

 Today I'm mounting switches and instruments.

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: What did you do today?

Are you saying that even after your prep’ed you still had some old conventional paint on the surface? Everything I have read says you have to have bare metal or a first layer of the same powder coat. Since you will cure it at 400-450 degrees F I’d be worried about the effect of the high heat on the old paint. But everything I have done was new aluminum so I don’t have much to go on. The nice thing about aluminum is that no matter how bad your oven is the whole item quickly reaches a uniform temperature.  

   

-- Craig  

       

From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Webber

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Craig  im new to powder coat painting   ? can you paint a powder paint over 

 an existing standard base paint provided you have sanded first?   i used a powder on my valve covers which i sand blasted, wire wheeled  and for  all purposes were raw metal finish

 i  then baked in oven 300  until no more smoke was visible cooled then powder painted and was very pleased with finish. they will be seen at CC#14 in Lowell Ma. on the 22nd of this month

 

     

Larry  

  



 

 

   

 > From: craig(at)craigandjean.com

 > To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 > Subject: RE: Re: What did you do today?

 > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:45:10 -0600

 > 

 > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig(at)craigandjean.com>

 > 

 > I (re)powder coated one of the sub-panels on my instrument panel last night.

 > BTW: if you ever need to remove powder coat acetone didn't touch it but

 > Permatex Gasket Remover (item #80646) made short work of it. And it's "known

 > by the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other

 > reproductive harm"!

 > 

 > Today I'm mounting switches and instruments.

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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: What did you do today?

Sears has a good one, about $70.00 as I recall. It was within 1 in. oz when  I check calibration. do not archive.

  

 John  Read

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I    researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has tips, it will be    appreciated.





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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:44 am Post subject: What did you do today?

Finished putting on the red detail stripes and  added anti-chaffing tape between the upper and lower cowl sections. Then I made  one more walk-around to make sure everything will be ready for first flight if  the weather cooperates this weekend. Building has been fun but after all... the  objective has always been to fly.

  

 Ed Moody II

 601XL/Jabiru/Sensenich GA

 N4568G "Papa Goose"

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Larry Webber

Joined: 05 Jun 2008
Posts: 63
Location: West Kingston Rhode Island

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: What did you do today?

the first ones i did were bare metal these came out great 

 now i would like ti try on old but prepped existing in other words not bare metal

 Larry



  

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Are you saying that even after your prep’ed you still had some old conventional paint on the surface? Everything I have read says you have to have bare metal or a first layer of the same powder coat. Since you will cure it at 400-450 degrees F I’d be worried about the effect of the high heat on the old paint. But everything I have done was new aluminum so I don’t have much to go on. The nice thing about aluminum is that no matter how bad your oven is the whole item quickly reaches a uniform temperature. 

  

-- Craig 

    

From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Webber

Sent: Monday C May 11 C 2009 6:30 PM

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Re: What did you do today?



 

  

Craig  im new to powder coat painting   ? can you paint a powder paint over 

an existing standard base paint provided you have sanded first?   i used a powder on my valve covers which i sand blasted C wire wheeled  and for  all purposes were raw metal finish

i  then baked in oven 300  until no more smoke was visible cooled then powder painted and was very pleased with finish. they will be seen at CC#14 in Lowell Ma. on the 22nd of this month



  

Larry

 



  

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 Subject: RE: Re: What did you do today?

 Date: Sun C 10 May 2009 19:45:10 -0600

 

 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig(at)craigandjean.com>

 

 I (re)powder coated one of the sub-panels on my instrument panel last night.

 BTW: if you ever need to remove powder coat acetone didn't touch it but

 Permatex Gasket Remover (item #80646) made short work of it. And it's "known

 by the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other

 reproductive harm"!

 

 Today I'm mounting switches and instruments.

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