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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: 2 12V BATTERIES

HI KIDS.

 There was a post about the installation of 2 12V batteries in place of the large (very expensive) G-50C.  There is an old Commander service letter (#52), from 1962, that allows that change with only a logbook entry.  I found this gem about 2 months after I replaced the G-50C ($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!!  Oh well.  If you are a TCFG member, I will get you a copy.  The substitution of PMAed Gel Cells would not require anything beyond a log entry.  jb We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. 

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wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: 2 12V BATTERIES

JB,

I would appreciate a copy, please.

I have a AC 500A, a copy of the service letter could prove very useful.

eMail would be the easy way to send it, or let me know if you want to post a copy.

Cheers,

Bill Hamilton



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		   yourtcfg(at)aol.com wrote:

 

HI KIDS.
	


There was a post about the installation of 2 12V batteries in place of the large (very

expensive) G-50C.? There is an old Commander?service letter (#52), from 1962, that allows

that change with only a logbook entry.? I found this gem about 2 months after I replaced the

G-50C?($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!!? Oh well.? If you are a TCFG member, I will get you

a copy.? The substitution of PMAed Gel Cells would not require anything beyond a log entry.?

jb

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mdella(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: 2 12V BATTERIES

Well I could use a copy. I'm trying to replace the tray at the moment while rebuilding the instrument panel and some other avionics.  Being able to put in two 12V in series rather than a single 28V would be nice.... Also to see what was done to secure the batteries

 

mrd



On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:18 PM,  <yourtcfg(at)aol.com (yourtcfg(at)aol.com)> wrote:

[quote] HI KIDS.

 There was a post about the installation of 2 12V batteries in place of the large (very expensive) G-50C.  There is an old Commander service letter (#52), from 1962, that allows that change with only a logbook entry.  I found this gem about 2 months after I replaced the G-50C ($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!!  Oh well.  If you are a TCFG member, I will get you a copy.  The substitution of PMAed Gel Cells would not require anything beyond a log entry.  jb 

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lloyd silverman

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: 2 12V BATTERIES

if you have service bulletin #52 i would greatly appreciate a copy . thanks,lloyd email to lloydsss(at)gmail.com (lloydsss(at)gmail.com) or fax # 914 667 2221



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		  HI KIDS.

There was a post about the installation of 2 12V batteries in place of the large (very expensive) G-50C.  There is an old Commander service letter (#52), from 1962, that allows that change with only a logbook entry.  I found this gem about 2 months after I replaced the G-50C ($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!!  Oh well.  If you are a TCFG member, I will get you a copy.  The substitution of PMAed Gel Cells would not require anything beyond a log entry.  jb  

  We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. 

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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: 2 12V BATTERIES

JB,

  

 Please send me a copy of old Commander  service letter # 52. moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com (moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com)

  

 Thanks!

  

 Moe Mills

 Member in Good Standing & Proud  Holder of The 

Golden Pedal Award.

  



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 Subject: 2 12V BATTERIES

 



HI KIDS.

There was a post about the installation of 2 12V  batteries in place of the large (very expensive) G-50C.  There is an old  Commander service letter (#52), from 1962, that allows that change with  only a logbook entry.  I found this gem about 2 months after I replaced the  G-50C ($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!!  Oh well.  If you are a  TCFG member, I will get you a copy.  The substitution of PMAed Gel Cells  would not require anything beyond a log entry.  jb  

  We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you  find? Explore  WhereItsAt.com. 

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wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: 2 12V BATTERIES

http://www.batterymart.com/p-hawker-sbs-J16-aircraft-battery.html  

   

Folks,  

The above shows a Hawker Odyssey battery described as an “aircraft battery”, they are similar to the Hawker Genesis we mostly use down here.  

Seems to me that a conversion from old fashioned Gill/Concorde wet lead acid shouldn’t be too much problem.  

There are a string of STCs for the more “up market” 24 volt Hawker batteries for  Commanders, 680/690, but they are probably priced similarly to the dinosaur  batteries.  

CASA ( Campaign Against Sustainable Aviation) in Australia is generally regarded as far more difficult to get along with, compared to FAA, so a 337 conversion should not represent too much of a problem, with a copy of SL 52 in hand, and the price/performance/life/zero-zilch-nil maintenance is very attractive.  

Two 12v Genesis as above will run maybe $300, two of the above around $300.  

Cheers,  

Bill Hamilton  

   

       

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons

 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:36 AM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: 2 12V BATTERIES  

  

  

     

JB,  

    

   

    

Please send me a copy of old Commander service letter # 52. moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com (moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com)  

    

   

    

Thanks!  

    

   

    

Moe Mills  

    

Member in Good Standing & Proud Holder of The 

 [b]Golden Pedal Award.[/b]  

      

   

      

From: yourtcfg(at)aol.com (yourtcfg(at)aol.com)   

    

Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:18 PM  

    

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Subject: 2 12V BATTERIES  

  

  

    

   

  

HI KIDS.

 There was a post about the installation of 2 12V batteries in place of the large (very expensive) G-50C.  There is an old Commander service letter (#52), from 1962, that allows that change with only a logbook entry.  I found this gem about 2 months after I replaced the G-50C ($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!!  Oh well.  If you are a TCFG member, I will get you a copy.  The substitution of PMAed Gel Cells would not require anything beyond a log entry.  jb     

       

  

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: 2 12V BATTERIES

Bill, is that CASA business an activist group bent on  sabotaging aviation? Their name sounds ambiguous. 

  



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill  Hamilton

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:36 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: 2 12V  BATTERIES

 

  

http://www.batterymart.com/p-hawker-sbs-J16-aircraft-battery.html 

  

Folks, 

The above shows a Hawker Odyssey battery described as an  “aircraft battery”, they are similar to the Hawker Genesis we mostly use down  here. 

Seems to me that a conversion from old fashioned  Gill/Concorde wet lead acid shouldn’t be too much problem. 

There are a string of STCs for the more “up market” 24 volt  Hawker batteries for  Commanders, 680/690, but they are probably priced  similarly to the dinosaur  batteries. 

CASA ( Campaign Against Sustainable Aviation) in Australia is  generally regarded as far more difficult to get along with, compared to FAA, so  a 337 conversion should not represent too much of a problem, with a copy of SL  52 in hand, and the price/performance/life/zero-zilch-nil maintenance is very  attractive. 

Two 12v Genesis as above will run maybe $300, two of the  above around $300. 

Cheers, 

Bill Hamilton 

  

    

From:  owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  Moe-rosspistons

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:36 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: 2 12V  BATTERIES



 

   

JB,

  

 

  

Please send me a copy of  old Commander service letter # 52. moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com (moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com)

  

 

  

Thanks!

  

 

  

Moe  Mills

  

Member in Good Standing  & Proud Holder of The 

[b]Golden Pedal  Award.[/b]

   

 

   

From: yourtcfg(at)aol.com (yourtcfg(at)aol.com)  

  

Sent: Wednesday, May 13,  2009 7:18 PM

  

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)  

  

Subject: 2  12V BATTERIES

  

 

 

HI KIDS.

There was a post about the installation of 2 12V  batteries in place of the large (very expensive) G-50C.  There is an old  Commander service letter (#52), from 1962, that allows that change with  only a logbook entry.  I found this gem about 2 months after I replaced the  G-50C ($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!!  Oh well.  If you are a  TCFG member, I will get you a copy.  The substitution of PMAed Gel Cells  would not require anything beyond a log entry.  jb   

    

 

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