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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Window sealing YAK 18t Reply with quote

Can anybody please advise best method of sealing new windows in my YAK 18t? I have tried the excellent Cessna sealing strip but it is too thick and prevents the fitting of the fixing plates.
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t Reply with quote

Hello Biggles,
we used clear silicone sealant on the windows .

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t Reply with quote

Thanks Vic - ? just clear silicone, no tape or nothing ? How about any preparation ?
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Window sealing YAK 18t Reply with quote

Yikes, silicone?  It has been my experience that your going to be pretty much screwed if you ever have to replace a section if it was installed with silicone.  The stuff just does too good of a job, it just wont let go!  You end up having to nearly destroy the frame to get the old piece out.  
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t Reply with quote

What do you recommend Doug ?
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:21 pm    Post subject: Window sealing YAK 18t Reply with quote

I have never replaced the glass on a 18T, so don't cant speak to the problems or best methods for you.  For Nanchang canopies I use Cessna horizontal stabilizer leading edge tape from A/C Spruce.  It's a thick black tape seems to work well, never had a canopy leak.  

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Window sealing YAK 18t Reply with quote

Excellent point Doug and I second your comments 100%. I've seen the effects of someone using clear silicone sealant. The front window frame was almost destroyed while trying to remove the stuff from the frame.
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t Reply with quote

Hi Biggles,
you may find places on the Yak where you´d like to have the tape a few millimeters thick, but mostly zero thickness would be fine. So you´d better find some metric sealing compound for the job on Russian aircraft like silicone. That way adjustments while fitting the windows are possible. With tapes you might fall into offensive language, but in some places tapes should do . When replacing windows one day, I guess you will need a cutter anyway to separate the window from the frame. Windshields on cars are glued as well, but I think this stuff is even tougher than clear silicone. I´d suggest you do a test elsewhere to find out what suits you best for this job.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Window sealing YAK 18t Reply with quote

Another good tape to use is the 20 mil black pipe wrapping tape. You can get it at Home Depot, Lowes, etc.


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I have never replaced the glass on a 18T, so don't cant speak to the problems or best methods for you. For Nanchang canopies I use Cessna horizontal stabilizer leading edge tape from A/C Spruce. It's a thick black tape seems to work well, never had a canopy leak.  

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