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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

Gary:



I'm not qualified to offer an opinion on your problem, but I can say

that when I had some of my own issuez with my Lightning, Arion and GL,

(specifically Ryan) stayed with me every step of the way.  When they

say that they want satisified customers, they really mean it.  I have

never found things to be any different.



Best of luck to you and hopes for a speedy resolution.



Jim!

pennington(at)q.com
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Thanks Jim

  

 How is your beautiful plane doing. How many hours?

  

 Have a great day

  

 Gary Pennington

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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

My plane is flying and will be at the Lancaster fly-in this weekend

and Virginia Festival of Flight next.  The hours are rising!



On 5/18/09, GARY PENNINGTON <pennington(at)q.com> wrote:

[quote] Thanks Jim



 How is your beautiful plane doing. How many hours?



 Have a great day



 Gary Pennington

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dashvii(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

Gary C     Sounds like Johnny has offered some excellent help.  I am sorry for the damage to your plane.  Question.  Was the damage to the paint strictly from the auto fuel C or did it go unnoticed for a while and the time on surface caused the bubbling?  The reason that I ask is because I've seen many composites refueled and overflowed.  Granted 100LL evaporates much more quickly.  Anyhow C good luck and hope that you send us pics of your plane airborne again sometime soon.  



Johnny C

   Also sorry to here of your unfortunate happenings.  I am really glad that you chose to have that in the newsletter.  I used it as an example safety topic at work.  I once saw a guy that was life flighted due to a similar issue with a gas tank on a car.  Unfortunately he was not as lucky.  Glad to here that you are okay.  I want to thank you for offering the help to Gary.  It shows a true commitment and love of building.  I believe this to be even more so considering your own current issues.  I believe that the things that you recommended are accurate and warranted.  If one component in the fuel system had issues a thorough checkout of the rest of it C while hopefully just precautionary C will help to validate the systems solidarity.  I hope to meet you both out west some day.  Also loved the article on Greg Hobb's place.  Greg and his wife are two of the most hospitable people you'll ever meet.  Great place.  Take care C Brian W.

From: pennington(at)q.com

To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Have faith C be patient...

Date: Mon C 18 May 2009 17:23:40 -0700



           Thanks Jim

  

 How is your beautiful plane doing. How many hours?

  

 Have a great day

  

 Gary Pennington

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pennington(at)q.com
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Awesome!

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pennington(at)q.com
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hello Brian

  

 The paint lifted after fuel escaped from the vent tube and ran down the  wing.

  

 Thanks for your concern.

  

 Gary Pennington

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8wn(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

Thanks Brian.  I have enjoy Gary's company and  hope to be flying wingman for him soon.  Are you in Houston? My wife &  I fly into east Texas a lot.

  

 Greg and Crystal are wonderful. They have become wonderful  friends\family and will just do about anything for anyone. Heck, Greg even  helped me move out of our home and hanger and has stored 3 planes for me this  past year. Never heard of a dealer doing that before.

  

 Johnny Thompson

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wampam

Joined: 20 Oct 2008
Posts: 49

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Have faith, be patient...

Johnny,



I agree, Greg and Crystal are terrific.  It is a pleasure to know them.  You helped me out a number of times also, thanks.



Walt Mefford

dashvii(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

Johnny C    Yep C I am in the Clear Lake area of Houston.  Where do you usually fly to in east Texas?  Brian W.

From: 8wn(at)comcast.net

To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Have faith C be patient...

Date: Mon C 18 May 2009 21:17:34 -0700

      .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;} .ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}     Thanks Brian.  I have enjoy Gary's company and  hope to be flying wingman for him soon.  Are you in Houston? My wife &  I fly into east Texas a lot.

 Greg and Crystal are wonderful. They have become wonderful  friends\family and will just do about anything for anyone. Heck C Greg even  helped me move out of our home and hanger and has stored 3 planes for me this  past year. Never heard of a dealer doing that before.

 Johnny Thompson

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N1BZRich(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:42 am Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

In a message dated 5/18/2009 9:29:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  pennington(at)q.com writes:

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		     The paint lifted after fuel escaped from the vent tube and ran down the    wing.

	


 

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N1BZRich(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

In a message dated 5/18/2009 9:29:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  pennington(at)q.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     The paint lifted after fuel escaped from the vent tube and ran down the    wing.

	


 

 Hi again Gary,

     I have been meaning to write again sooner, but have  been just too busy to find the time to put together a message.  But your  tank issue and certainly your above comment really concerns me.  Something  else is going on in your tanks.  There is just no way that auto fuel, even  with ethanol, running down your wing would cause the paint to lift.   Something else is going on - meaning something else must have been in the fuel  or the tank.  I have no idea as to how it got there, and that is  the part that concerns me.   I have done some recent research on the  Kreem that is used to slosh the tanks and no fuel (auto or 100 LL) should be  able to lift it once it is cured.  And it would have been well cured before  you got your wings.  Anyway, I hope that you will soon be back in the air  and enjoying your airplane again.  When you have the time, please consider  an article for the newsletter outlining your problem, the fixes you have gone  through, and any lessons learned and or recommendations you might have.   The next issue of the newsletter (June) is almost done and I hope to get it out  before 1 June, but I will "hold the press" so to speak if you have  something by early next week.  After that I will be busy with the Virginia  Regional Fly -In.  Hope to get the June issue out before it starts.

 Blue Skies,

 Buz

  

 PS:  Go easy on Doug, he really is an OK guy - most of the time.   

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pennington(at)q.com
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Good morning Buz

  

 I really don't know what caused the mess. I wish I did. I do know it has  been a major amount of work and expense. I have spoken to other builders of  similar aircraft using Kreem sealant and they have described the same  problems. Maybe there is something in auto fuel???? 

  

 I just finished the second coat of new sealant on one of the tanks. It  looks pretty good. I was able to remove most of the old stuff. I will keep my  fingers crossed.

  

 Thanks for your concern.

 Gary Pennington

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wampam

Joined: 20 Oct 2008
Posts: 49

Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:46 am Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

What is the brand name and P/N of the sealant? 

   

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Good morning Buz 

  

  

  

I really don't know what caused the mess. I wish I did. I do know it has been a major amount of work and expense. I have spoken to  other builders of similar aircraft using Kreem sealant and they have described the same problems. Maybe there is something in auto fuel????  

  

  

  

I just finished the second coat of new sealant on one of the tanks. It looks pretty good. I was able to remove most of the old stuff.  I will keep my fingers crossed. 

  

  

  

Thanks for your concern. 

  

Gary Pennington 

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Wayne Lenox

Joined: 07 Jan 2008
Posts: 75
Location: Arizona in the winter

Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

Gary 

How are you resealing the tanks.  Did you remove the tank?   

Wayne Lenox 

N123WL



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pennington(at)q.com
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hello Wayne

 I removed both wings. I did not cut the tanks out of the  wings. I used Acetone to soak and remove most of the old sealant. I am using the  same "Kreem" brand to reseal. 

  

 Have a great day

 Gary PEnnington

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pennington(at)q.com
Guest

Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: Have faith, be patient...

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hey Walt

  

 The brand name is "Kreem" fuel tank liner. Do not have a part number. The  company is  in Somis, California.

  

 Gary

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