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Tim Olson
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 Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:27 pm Post subject: Slightly Off Topic: Portable intercom and Flight Training |
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You're definitely right Bob. I didn't forget the extra cost
of the hangar, but it was just insignificant to the whole
deal for me. Around here hangars aren't that bad. I figure
for the <6 months I'll have the plane, I'll have somewhere
around $1000 in hangar and insurance. Consider that that's
for 50-60 hours of flying as a minimum, and it's being split
3 ways...my dad needs a plane to fly, and we have the 2
students. So, each person has the plane for about $350 total
plus $32/hr + fuel.....for the entire summer/fall. Can't
work out too much better than that! I feel bad for the
folks on the coast where hangars cost a lot of money.
Around here it's a bargain.
As for the right seat landings, I didn't really find a
problem lining up with the runway...that part was good.
Finding the proper "look" to a centered straight landing
took a little feeling. I had to lean into the center
of the plane for a bit to get a look at what straight
was. For me the hardest things were getting my left
hand coordinated on the throttle to be smooth, and
feeling comfortable with the dang door tight to my
right side. Just unusual feeling is all.
I did briefly think about a mixer, and I love D-I-Y
projects, but a couple things drove me away from that.
First is that I'd have to buy a pile of jacks and a
couple plugs and order them, but then I'd have to find
a good box, and the hardest part was the time. In
the end, I don't know that the savings would be
all that great. Probably would be worth it over
buying new, but a used intercom is probably the
quickest and not terribly expensive. If I were
going to dig in to a D-I-Y project, I'd probably
consider grabbing an A&P and swapping the intercom
in the plane to a 4-place and just wiring jacks.
That would be nice if the owner would allow it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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Bob Turner wrote:
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<bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu>
Tim, Interesting observations. Many people forget the "extra" costs,
like insurance, when they're making these decisions. Of course, so
did you, sort of! Around here (San Francisco Bay area), the "...all I
needed to do was provide a hangar..." would be a real deal breaker,
as people grow old and die waiting for their names to come up on
hangar waiting lists!
On your first right-seat landings, did you tend to land on the right
side of the runway centerline? Just curious, it's very common, in my
experience.
As to the intercom: Since all you need is a mixer, have you thought
about building your own? If you're handy with a soldering iron, you
can do it in one evening. The most expensive parts are the jacks and
plugs; the integrated circuits are dirt cheap these days.
-------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB
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Bob Turner
Joined: 03 Jan 2009
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Location: Castro Valley, CA
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Slightly Off Topic: Portable intercom and Flight Traini |
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Tim,
I agree with the left hand on the throttle (and, in Cessnas, trim) thing. I attributed it to being right handed.
I would urge caution about flying under an "open pilot" clause. Read the policy very carefully, what you're looking for is a "waiver of subrogation". Most policies don't have one. What this means is that if there's damage to the airplane (or a person), the insurance company will pay the claim - but they reserve the right to sue the pilot who was flying to get their money back, unless he or she is a "named insured", not just on the open pilot clause. In fact, our policy specifically states that we will do nothing to hinder, and will help the insurance company, with their lawsuit against the person.
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msausen
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:00 am Post subject: Slightly Off Topic: Portable intercom and Flight Training |
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I couldn't agree more. I, like others I'm sure, have forsaken flying to fund this building thing but I plan on spending a number of hours in a 152/172 type aircraft getting current before I even think about going for transition training. Never even occurred to me as there being any other option and I even have a fair amount of 182 and Mooney time in my book.
At one point during my misspent youth, ok so it was my 20's and I think I remember most of it, I went for 10 years without stepping foot in an aircraft other than as cattle in the back. I then got back into it, in of all the places, Washington DC about a year after Sept 11th. The airport I flew out of was so close to the TFR that if you flew the wrong pattern you would be busted. But my point is that it really was just like riding a bike. Sure I forgot some details around regs and procedures but I could takeoff, fly, and land the aircraft no problem which, after 10 years, was my greatest concern. The biggest challenge to me will be getting the knowledge polished off and my skills back to PTS standards. Throwing in getting my instrument skills up to snuff along with an IPC and I can easily see spending 50 hours flight time and way more ground to be back where I was with a fresh Commercial with multi and instrument rating those 20 years ago.
Michael
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