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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:39 am Post subject: First Flights was Pilot Proficiency vs RV10 'flyabil

Jim,



a good advice seen in the LAA publication, if you have a configurable 

system declutter the screens and have only the minimal information 

shown, later on add features and get used to it. At least with the cheap 

Dynon that is an option



br Werner



jim(at)CombsFive.Com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Les,



 I had transition training with Alex in Dallas.  He made sure to cover 

 the emergency landing piece of flying!  I felt pretty good on the 

 first flight.  Just don't expect to do a lot on the first flight. 



 Gary brought up a good point.  If you are not used to the EFIS 

 screens, you can be overwhelmed by the amount of information 

 presented.  It takes a while (Several hours of flying) to get used to 

 what you need to look and and what can be ignored.  Spending time on 

 the ground with the systems up and running goes a long way before 

 actually getting in the air and wondering what buttons to push to get 

 this and that to happen.



 Jim C

 N312F - It's a wonderful airplane to fly!



 Do Not Archive

 



 Hi



 This thread and the various perspectives are interesting to say the least.

 I'd like to add a twist related to first flights especially given all the

 newly minted -10s that have been taking off of late.



 When the time comes to take my -10 up, I will be current in my PA28 and

 will

 also have taken transition training. That being said, the first flight

 really seems to me to be a flight into the unknown. Sure everything will

 have been quadruple checked but then again, sometimes s**t does happen. At

 that point experience will count for everything. Although I have a 1000+

 hours in my Cherokee, I have never had an off field landing (touch wood)

 or

 a serious emergency.



 That being said, my plan was to get a pilot experienced in initial flights

 to do the first test flight. What happens if something goes seriously

 wrong

 on the initial flight? Are we builders, especially after reduced flying

 hours due to building, really the best people to fly the initial flight?



 Even factory built a/c are test flown by skilled *test* pilots for the

 first

 time. Just food for thought.....



 Cheers



 Les

 #40643 KOSH 20xx or bust



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Tim Olson

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: First Flights was Pilot Proficiency vs RV10 'flyabil

I was VERY paranoid about how I'd transition to an EFIS from steam

gauges for my first flight.  I went into it figuring I may not

even look at the EFIS much because it wouldn't be as easy to

read and understand.  Turns out I was wrong.  I found that the

transition went really smooth, almost immediate.  Now, if you're

talking about the "How do I load approaches" and that kind of thing,

that's a whole different story.  But, just being able to view

and quickly interpret the EFIS...that wasn't bad at all.  Just

try not to turn on every item of clutter that you have, and

keep it simple.



The BIGGER headache is going for that first flight with all of

your alarm limits not tuned in.  I had my stall warning set

intentionally high (probably shouldn't have done that), and

some other limits set in places that I later adjusted.  I

didn't know what to expect, so I guess at their set points.

So on my first flight, I was getting stall warnings when I

was far from a stall....I just flew by feel.  In retrospect,

if there had only been more flying RV-10s back then it would

have been nice to just copy what someone else had for limits

and go with it for the first flight, being realistic on that

stall speed.  (I had mine set for 75kts or something like

that).



I had spent a bit of time not only sitting behind the

powered up screen, but playing with the simulator on the

PC before I flew, so it wasn't totally from ground zero.



One bit of warning though.... if you have devices like

heading indicators and other things that require calibration,

or scaling, do that before your first flight.  Way too

many people seem to skip it and then they end up with

some unusual avionics issues that they wouldn't have had

to deal with.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD



jim(at)CombsFive.Com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Les,

 

 I had transition training with Alex in Dallas.  He made sure to cover 

 the emergency landing piece of flying!  I felt pretty good on the first 

 flight.  Just don't expect to do a lot on the first flight. 

 

 Gary brought up a good point.  If you are not used to the EFIS screens, 

 you can be overwhelmed by the amount of information presented.  It takes 

 a while (Several hours of flying) to get used to what you need to look 

 and and what can be ignored.  Spending time on the ground with the 

 systems up and running goes a long way before actually getting in the 

 air and wondering what buttons to push to get this and that to happen.

 

 Jim C

 N312F - It's a wonderful airplane to fly!

 

 Do Not Archive

 

 

 Hi

 

 This thread and the various perspectives are interesting to say the least.

 I'd like to add a twist related to first flights especially given all the

 newly minted -10s that have been taking off of late.

 

 When the time comes to take my -10 up, I will be current in my PA28 and

 will

 also have taken transition training. That being said, the first flight

 really seems to me to be a flight into the unknown. Sure everything will

 have been quadruple checked but then again, sometimes s**t does happen. At

 that point experience will count for everything. Although I have a 1000+

 hours in my Cherokee, I have never had an off field landing (touch wood)

 or

 a serious emergency.

 

 That being said, my plan was to get a pilot experienced in initial flights

 to do the first test flight. What happens if something goes seriously

 wrong

 on the initial flight? Are we builders, especially after reduced flying

 hours due to building, really the best people to fly the initial flight?

 

 Even factory built a/c are test flown by skilled *test* pilots for the

 first

 time. Just food for thought.....

 

 Cheers

 

 Les

 #40643 KOSH 20xx or bust

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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