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jochs(at)froody.org
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: tail cone bottom skin and stiffeners

Hi all,



I'm working off of revision 1 plans dated 05/28/2008 and am at the  

part where I'm sliding the stiffeners between the bottom skin and the  

bulkhead frames.  The plans say to cut the J stiffeners to 50 5/8" and  

to line up the marks at the front holes, and that the aft end of the  

stiffener should be "captured" between the bottom skin and the F-1008  

frame...  my question is, yes, its captured, but it doesn't reach the  

rivet hole in that back frame... is there supposed to be a rivet on  

the back end, or is "captured" good enough?  If there's supposed to be  

a rivet, then either my skin is wrong or the plans are wrong... I even  

re-measured them twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things.



thanks,

James

#40400

Assembling tailcone

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Kellym

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: tail cone bottom skin and stiffeners

Suggest looking at http://www.etigerrr.com/TailCone/TailCone_April_7.htm and http://www.etigerrr.com/TailCone/tail_cone_april_23_2004.htm  The picture for step 2 shows correct positioning.

  

 

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 Hi all,   

   

 I'm working off of revision 1 plans dated 05/28/2008 and am at the part where I'm sliding the stiffeners between the bottom skin and the bulkhead frames.  The plans say to cut the J stiffeners to 50 5/8" and to line up the marks at the front holes, and that the aft end of the stiffener should be "captured" between the bottom skin and the F-1008 frame...  my question is, yes, its captured, but it doesn't reach the rivet hole in that back frame... is there supposed to be a rivet on the back end, or is "captured" good enough?  If there's supposed to be a rivet, then either my skin is wrong or the plans are wrong... I even re-measured them twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things.   

   

 thanks,   

 James   

 #40400   

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: tail cone bottom skin and stiffeners

There's supposed to be a rivet.  You sure one or both of the frames aren't bowed?  Make sure all the other frame/skin holes are aligned.

  

 -Rob

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Hi all,



I'm working off of revision 1 plans dated 05/28/2008 and am at the part where I'm sliding the stiffeners between the bottom skin and the bulkhead frames.  The plans say to cut the J stiffeners to 50 5/8" and to line up the marks at the front holes, and that the aft end of the stiffener should be "captured" between the bottom skin and the F-1008 frame...  my question is, yes, its captured, but it doesn't reach the rivet hole in that back frame... is there supposed to be a rivet on the back end, or is "captured" good enough?  If there's supposed to be a rivet, then either my skin is wrong or the plans are wrong... I even re-measured them twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things.

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: tail cone bottom skin and stiffeners

Ok.  Operator error.  I guess I'm either getting tired or need to go back to tape measure school.



You know how something stares you in the face and you don't get it?  Well it turns out I cut them 50 and 5 hash marks on the tape, not 50 and 5/8's... the tape measure is marked in sixteenths.  *goes very red in face*  At least all the others are right 

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On May 28, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:

[quote]There's supposed to be a rivet.  You sure one or both of the frames aren't bowed?  Make sure all the other frame/skin holes are aligned.

  

 -Rob

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Hi all,



I'm working off of revision 1 plans dated 05/28/2008 and am at the part where I'm sliding the stiffeners between the bottom skin and the bulkhead frames.  The plans say to cut the J stiffeners to 50 5/8" and to line up the marks at the front holes, and that the aft end of the stiffener should be "captured" between the bottom skin and the F-1008 frame...  my question is, yes, its captured, but it doesn't reach the rivet hole in that back frame... is there supposed to be a rivet on the back end, or is "captured" good enough?  If there's supposed to be a rivet, then either my skin is wrong or the plans are wrong... I even re-measured them twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things.

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Kellym

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: tail cone bottom skin and stiffeners

Don't feel bad. I don't think there are any of us that haven't made some parts 2 or 3 times, until we get it right or can live with the results.

 Whether it is measurements or not bending smoothly or band saw blade breaks or drill or rivet gun slips, you just hope it is less expensive parts and the shipping costs aren't too great. 

 Don't you wish you had already done the pre-emptive drill hole in finger now??  

 Kelly

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		  Ok.  Operator error.  I guess I'm either getting tired or need to go back to tape measure school.   

   

   You know how something stares you in the face and you don't get it?  Well it turns out I cut them 50 and 5 hash marks on the tape, not 50 and 5/8's... the tape measure is marked in sixteenths.  *goes very red in face*  At least all the others are right 

   

   

   back to vans web store for replacement parts.

   

   

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Albert Gardner

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: tail cone bottom skin and stiffeners

There are some mistakes that can be fixed without replacing the parts. Look at it as a repair. Using Acceptable Methods as a guide consider splicing the stiffener to make it the correct length.  

Albert Gardner  

Yuma, AZ  

   

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