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kearney



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: Door Fit Reply with quote

Hi

As I work to fit my doors, I have come to realize that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a problem. This will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The doors fit quite well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and aft. Unless I grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be seeing if I can adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am wondering what others have done to deal with this problem.

Inquiring minds need to know…

Cheers

Les
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Door Fit Reply with quote

Oh yeah...but as the seals break in it gets easier...can't add much cept yup, that's how they are...back to assembly...woo hoo!!!l lookin like a plane!!Rick SkedDo not archive
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:36:17 -0600
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As I work to fit my doors, I have come to realize = that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a problem. This = will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The doors fit quite = well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and aft. Unless I = grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be seeing if I can = adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am wondering what = others have done to deal with this problem.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Door Fit Reply with quote

That is the reason for the bevel on the pin. The tip of the pin in the hole starts the process and the bevel pulls it in the hole. doors will be quite tight to start and one will be easier to close than the other. They will close more easily as used.

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:36 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
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Hi

As I work to fit my doors, I have come to realize that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a problem. This will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The doors fit quite well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and aft. Unless I grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be seeing if I can adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am wondering what others have done to deal with this problem.

Inquiring minds need to know…

Cheers

Les
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:20 pm    Post subject: Door Fit Reply with quote

They get better but the action you use is pull in and forward on the handle and that brings the back one in too. The seals work REAL well so for us northerners it's nice that they're tight.
Tim

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Hi

As I work to fit my doors, I have come to realize that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a problem. This will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The doors fit quite well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and aft. Unless I grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be seeing if I can adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am wondering what others have done to deal with this problem.

Inquiring minds need to know…

Cheers

Les
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Door Fit Reply with quote

David

I understand the mechanics, the key is to get the door closed enough that the tip is “in the hole” to get things started. If the door is open but just a bit, the tip will not pull the door in.

Cheers

Les


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That is the reason for the bevel on the pin. The tip of the pin in the hole starts the process and the bevel pulls it in the hole. doors will be quite tight to start and one will be easier to close than the other. They will close more easily as used.


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:36 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Door Fit
Hi

As I work to fit my doors, I have come to realize that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a problem. This will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The doors fit quite well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and aft. Unless I grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be seeing if I can adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am wondering what others have done to deal with this problem.

Inquiring minds need to know…

Cheers

Les
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: Door Fit Reply with quote

This is a good time to post a question on this subject. I got a little over-zealous removing the return so the doors could fit. Dave Saylor suggested several ways to rebuild it back up, but I thought I'd check on what others think is too much gap first. Should it almost touch the door all the way around or do you just need "some" return?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Door Fit Reply with quote

I made mine touch the door all the around C but you should do this with what ever seal you are intending to use.

JOhn

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: Door Fit Reply with quote

John

I thought I had done the same thing.

Have you got the doors hung yet? If not you may be surprised at how
much the door gap closes when the doors are in place.

Cheers

Les

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This is a good time to post a question on this subject. I got a
little over-zealous removing the return so the doors could fit. Dave
Saylor suggested several ways to rebuild it back up, but I thought
I'd check on what others think is too much gap first. Should it
almost touch the door all the way around or do you just need "some"
return?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: Door Fit Reply with quote

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John
I thought I had done the same thing.

Have you got the doors hung yet? If not you may be surprised at how
much the door gap closes when the doors are in place.

Cheers

Les

Les,
I'm putting the canopy back on for good in a few days, so I'll check again, but in the initial fitting, there were some areas with larger gaps. I'll just mount them and look. I know a few areas will need some build up. Would a 1/4" be OK, or should I go for 1/8 to 1/16"?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Door Fit Reply with quote

John

I won't know for a few days either. I am still adjusting for fit with
door seal.

I would like to get the door closed just touching the door seal with
just a little compression.

Cheers

Les

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> John
> I thought I had done the same thing.
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> Have you got the doors hung yet? If not you may be surprised at how
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>
> Les

Les,
I'm putting the canopy back on for good in a few days, so I'll check
again, but in the initial fitting, there were some areas with larger
gaps. I'll just mount them and look. I know a few areas will need
some build up. Would a 1/4" be OK, or should I go for 1/8 to 1/16"?

Fun with fiberglass....
John

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