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Juan Vega Jr

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: I got Zbagged three times on Friday - Flight Report.

Paul,

NTSB did not find anything,  they published a report based on pblic pressure from a few, and not clearly reading all the results of the reports, or waiting for the GVT test results to be completed.  PLease sell your plane.



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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: I got Zbagged three times on Friday - Flight Report.

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		  Let me guess .  .  .  You and a few other folks with vested interests 

in the Zodiac XL are right to ignore the NTSB finding and the whole 

rest of the world is wrong.



Paul

XL grounded


	


Paul, having met you and chatted at SnF, I'm sure that you're bright enough to know beforehand that posting such polarizing comments only serves to stir the pot, muddy the waters, and gets the Zenith 601 community no closer to any kind of reasonable understanding of this issue.



Apparently, you've divided us into two camps; "folks with vested interests in the Zodiac XL" and the "whole rest of the world". How insulting. As if owning a 601XL is tantamount to some form of suicidal self-delusion and willful ignorance.



Mark Twain once observed something along the lines of "A lie will be half way around the world before the truth can get its boots on." And now we're seeing the same thing happen when we fly our 601s and those who don't know any better make some comment about the "wings falling off". And the recent AOPA article, written some time ago without all of the facts, bolstered that perception as well. Hopefully, some journalistic integrity will kick in and they'll print some form of a retraction.



YOU, however, have no excuse for posting such reckless observations, especially after I (and others) have patiently answered every one of your concerns with the following:

The 601XL elevator is extremely sensitive, and sudden full down deflections at high airspeeds will compromise the wing attachments. Flying with loose aileron cables may induce flutter leading to catastrophic failure. The airframe was never designed for aerobatics, flight into severe turbulence or thunderstorms. The airframe must be constructed of factory approved materials, substitution of weaker or improper airframe parts may compromise safety. And don't forget to install the flap stops.



Seems to me that Zenith has addressed all of the above in the recent past, even to the point of extensive GVT. However, you (and a few others here) keep insisting that the airframe has a "fatal flaw" in spite of the data to the contrary.



I can only assume that such incendiary grandstanding in a public forum is done out of a need to stroke one's ego (at the expense of the 601 community), since you repeatedly keep ignoring recent evidence that presents a much different picture than the one you keep offering up as fact.



You've grounded your airplane, and that's your call. No one has second guessed your decision to do so. So please allow us to fly ours without the insults, and we'll call it even, OK?



Rick Lindstrom

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: I got Zbagged three times on Friday - Flight Report.

Is  it only polarizing incediary grandstanding when it is critical of those 

insulting those who were or are looking for a way to identify potential 

safety issues, or can we assume there has been more than enough crap flung 

from both sides?



Remember this list was once again a civil conversation about building and 

flying issues until some fool had to have another shot.

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